Hi Beoit,

thank you very much. As soon as I got it running I am happy to do e.g. the step 
by step config tutorial.
I did a little bit of testing and came across a real weird situation: I am able 
to send an e-mail manually by means of telnet. However, I am still not able to 
send an e-mail with Thunderbird, Outlook or my own e-mail sending application. 
Do you have any idea what the reasons for this might be?

Thank you very much for your time.

Felix


-----Original Message-----
From: btell...@apache.org <btell...@apache.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 11:52 AM
To: server-user@james.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ext] Re: User Docker image apache/james:demo-3.6.0: SMTP problem

Hi Felix,

I did open https://github.com/apache/james-project/pull/605

If there is anything unclear, feel free to ask there, let's get that tutorial 
better together!

Regards,

Benoit

On 18/08/2021 16:05, btell...@apache.org wrote:
> Hi Felix,
>
> I did just succeed to self send a mail with Thunderbird.
>
> Some tips:
>  - manual config, I used the SSL ports directly on the container 
> (docker
> inspect)
>  - The username shall be the full email address
>  - Be sure to select the right outgoing servers
>
> I would like to thank you for pointing out that this "demo" is not 
> that easy to set up, and that we would benefit from a little tutorial 
> with some TB screen capture to ease the demo as much as possible.
>
> Regards,
>
> Benoit
>
> On 18/08/2021 15:44, Wirth, Felix Nikolaus wrote:
>> Dear Benoit,
>>
>> thank you for your fast answer. I am not sure whether this applies to my 
>> issue, since I used Thunderbird authenticating the user with a password 
>> (although unencrypted). If I understand correctly, the issue is about 
>> unauthenticated users. Is that correct?
>>
>> Regards and thanks for your time
>>
>> Felix
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: btell...@apache.org <btell...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:19 AM
>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>> Subject: [ext] Re: User Docker image apache/james:demo-3.6.0: SMTP 
>> problem
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please refer to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-3525
>>
>> TL;DR Your MAIL FROM is the one of a local user. If we accept the email 
>> without authentication, anybody could trivially still your identity, which 
>> would be a major security flow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Benoit
>>
>> On 17/08/2021 20:09, Wirth, Felix Nikolaus wrote:
>>> Dear James Community,
>>>
>>> I tried out the Docker image apache/james:demo-3.6.0 as described on the 
>>> Apache James landing page as well as 
>>> here<https://james.staged.apache.org/james-project/3.6.0/servers/demo.html>.
>>> Starting the image works and I can also add the mail addresses of the users 
>>> with the domains james.local and test.local to Thunderbird. After adding, 
>>> the IMAP connection to check for new e-mails works as well (although ofc, 
>>> there are none). However, I cannot send e-mails by SMTP to one of the user 
>>> users or the same user. The error I see in Mozilla is "Authentication 
>>> required". I do not see entries in /log/james.log which I can refer to the 
>>> SMTP topic.
>>> I got the same problem on a Windows and a Linux host.
>>>
>>> I don't know what I am doing wrong here.
>>> Does anybody can tell me how to fix this problem?
>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>
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