Hi Karsten -- 

Thanks for your response, I wasn't aware of these S3-compatible 
possibilities!  The "no downtime" option is always nice to have even for 
smaller deployments.

Rich




From:   "Karsten Otto" <karstenandreas.o...@akquinet.de.INVALID>
To:     server-user@james.apache.org
Date:   05/25/2024 10:19 AM
Subject:        Re: Book on how to run your own mail server



Hi Rich,

you don't need a paid Amazon subscription, any S3 compatible solution 
will work as well. I have tested it successfully with Zenko Cloudserver 
and MinIO.

But I agree that this kind of deployment only makes sense if you need to 
scale James for a lot of simultaneous users, prevent maintenance 
downtime, and all the other things you would want a service cluster for.

Cheers,
Karsten


On 24.05.24 11:34 PM, tempbo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi Benoit --
> 
> What's inefficient about the JPA version compared to the others?  And I
> hope the Spring version isn't deprecated anytime soon since I've been
> successfully using the Spring versions for years.  They're about as 
simple
> and secure as it gets for running your own free mail server software.
> 
> The Cassandra version makes the least sense for a small business wanting
> to self-host since it requires paid Amazon S3, not to mention the added
> complexity/maintenance.
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts!
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:   "Benoit TELLIER" <btell...@apache.org>
> To:     server-user@james.apache.org
> Date:   05/24/2024 05:17 PM
> Subject:        Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF
> https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html
> which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though
> dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to
> operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments.
> 
> An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not
> mature enough.
> 
> Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and
> absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I
> did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but
> to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy".
> 
> And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-)
> 
> That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler
> to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose
> from and as a user it is hard to navigate.
> 
> Does this answer your question?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Benoit
> 
> On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> Hi there!
>> Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :)
>> Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar
> or
>> something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs?
>>
>>
>>
>> пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER <btell...@apache.org>:
>>
>>> Hi Eugen!
>>>
>>> Thanks for the links.
>>>
>>> I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of
>>> course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for
>>> services we provide @LINAGORA.
>>>
>>>    > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will
>>> help otehr people that wish to self host with James.
>>>
>>> +1 !
>>>
>>> Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-)
>>>
>>> Benoit
>>>
>>> On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest.
>>>> The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and
>>>> researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth.
>>>>
>>>> I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the
>>>> year with Apache James.
>>>> I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will 
help
>>>> otehr people that wish to self host with James.
>>>>
>>>> Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support
>>>> more people self hosting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> 
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
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