Hi Chris 

Could there be a numbering clash with this ballot and the one being worked on 
by Ben Wilson? 

“[Servercert-wg] Draft Ballot SC-067: Applicant, Subscriber and Subscriber 
Agreements - Feedback r”

As I am not completely sure how ballot numbering should work out, can the 
numbers be recycled or how that pans out? 



//Antti 


From: Servercert-wg <[email protected]> on behalf of Chris 
Clements via Servercert-wg <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, 18. March 2024 at 17.32
To: CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Servercert-wg] Discussion Period Begins - Ballot SC-067 V1: "Require 
domain validation and CAA checks to be performed from multiple Network 
Perspectives” 

Purpose of Ballot SC-067: 

This Ballot proposes updates to the Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and 
Management of Publicly-Trusted TLS Server Certificates (i.e., TLS BRs) related 
to “Multi-Perspective Issuance Corroboration” (“MPIC”). 

Background: 

- MPIC refers to performing domain validation and CAA checks from multiple 
Network Perspectives before certificate issuance, as described within the 
Ballot for the applicable validation methods in TLS BR Sections 3.2.2.4 and 
3.2.2.5. 
- Not all methods described in TLS BR Sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.5 will require 
using MPIC. 
- This work was most recently motivated by research presented at Face-to-Face 
58 [1] by Princeton University, but has been discussed for years prior as well. 
- The goal of this proposal is to make it more difficult for adversaries to 
successfully launch equally-specific prefix attacks against the domain 
validation processes described in the TLS BRs. 
- Additional background information can be found in an update shared at 
Face-to-Face 60 [2]. 

Benefits of Adoption: 

- Recent publicly-documented attacks have used BGP hijacks to fool domain 
control validation and obtain malicious certificates, which led to the 
impersonation of HTTPS websites [3][4]. 
- Routing security defenses (e.g., RPKI) can mitigate the risk of global BGP 
attacks, but localized, equally-specific BGP attacks still pose a significant 
threat to the Web PKI [5][6]. 
- Corroborating domain control validation checks from multiple network 
perspectives (i.e., MPIC) spread across the Internet substantially reduces the 
threat posed by equally-specific BGP attacks, ensuring the integrity of domain 
validation and issuance decisions [5][7][8]. 
- Existing deployments of MPIC at the scale of millions of certificates a day 
demonstrate the feasibility of this technique at Internet scale [7][9]. 

Intellectual Property (IP) Disclosure: 

- While not a Server Certificate Working Group Member, researchers from 
Princeton University presented at Face-to-Face 58, provided academic expertise, 
and highlighted publicly-available peer-reviewed research to support Members in 
drafting this ballot. 
- The Princeton University researchers indicate that they have not filed for 
any patents relating to their MPIC work and do not plan to do so in the future. 
- Princeton University has indicated that it is unable to agree to the 
CA/Browser Forum IPR agreement because it could encumber inventions invented by 
researchers not involved in the development of MPIC or with the CA/B Forum. 
- Princeton University has instead provided the attached IPR statement. 
Pursuant to the IPR statement, Princeton University has granted a worldwide 
royalty free license to the intellectual property in MPIC developed by the 
researchers and has made representations regarding its lack of knowledge of any 
other Princeton intellectual property needed to implement MPIC. 
- For clarity, Princeton University’s IPR statement is NOT intended to replace 
the Forum’s IPR agreement or allow Princeton to participate in the Forum in any 
capacity. 
- Members seeking legal advice regarding this ballot should consult their own 
counsel. 

Proposal Revision History: 

- Pre-Ballot Release #1 (work team artifacts and broader Validation 
Subcommittee collaboration) [10] 
- Pre-Ballot Release #2 [11] 

Previous versions of this Ballot: 

- N/A, this is the first discussion period. 

References: 
[1] 
https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/13-CAB-Forum-face-to-face-multiple-vantage-points.pdf
 
<https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/13-CAB-Forum-face-to-face-multiple-vantage-points.pdf>
 
[2] 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LTwtAwHXcSaPVSsqKQztNJrV2ozHJ7ZL/view?usp=drive_link
 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LTwtAwHXcSaPVSsqKQztNJrV2ozHJ7ZL/view?usp=drive_link>
 
[3] 
https://medium.com/s2wblog/post-mortem-of-klayswap-incident-through-bgp-hijacking-en-3ed7e33de600
 
<https://medium.com/s2wblog/post-mortem-of-klayswap-incident-through-bgp-hijacking-en-3ed7e33de600>
 
[4] https://www.coinbase.com/blog/celer-bridge-incident-analysis 
<https://www.coinbase.com/blog/celer-bridge-incident-analysis> 
[5] https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity23/presentation/cimaszewski 
<https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity23/presentation/cimaszewski> 
[6] 
https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Gavrichenkov-Breaking-HTTPS-With-BGP-Hijacking-wp.pdf
 
<https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Gavrichenkov-Breaking-HTTPS-With-BGP-Hijacking-wp.pdf>
 
[7] https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/birge-lee 
<https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/birge-lee> 
[8] https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity18/presentation/birge-lee 
<https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity18/presentation/birge-lee> 
[9] 
https://security.googleblog.com/2023/05/google-trust-services-acme-api_0503894189.html
 
<https://security.googleblog.com/2023/05/google-trust-services-acme-api_0503894189.html>
 
[10] https://github.com/ryancdickson/staging/pull/6 
<https://github.com/ryancdickson/staging/pull/6> 
[11] https://github.com/ryancdickson/staging/pull/8 
<https://github.com/ryancdickson/staging/pull/8> 

The following motion has been proposed by Chris Clements and Ryan Dickson of 
Google (Chrome Root Program) and endorsed by Aaron Gable (ISRG / Let’s Encrypt) 
and Wayne Thayer (Fastly). 

— Motion Begins — 

This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management 
of Publicly-Trusted TLS Server Certificates” (“Baseline Requirements”), based 
on Version 2.0.2. 

MODIFY the Baseline Requirements as specified in the following Redline: 
https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/41f01640748fa612386f8b1a3031cd1bff3d4f35..6d10abda8980c6eb941987d3fc26e753e62858c0
 
<https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/41f01640748fa612386f8b1a3031cd1bff3d4f35..6d10abda8980c6eb941987d3fc26e753e62858c0>
 

— Motion Ends — 

This ballot proposes a Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure for approval 
of this ballot is as follows: 

Discussion (at least 21 days) 
- Start: 2024-03-18 15:30:00 UTC 
- End no earlier than: 2024-04-07 15:30:00 UTC 

Vote for approval (7 days) 
- Start: TBD 
- End: TBD 





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