On 15/5/2024 9:21 π.μ., Roman Fischer wrote:

Hi Dimitris,

I was thinking more along the line: What if we had TLS leaf certificates with e.g. the country field missing. Such a cert would not comply to the TLS BR and since the ICA signed such a non-complying cert, it would need to be revoked too… Which IMHO makes no sense at all. 😊


Indeed, it doesn't :)

Rgds
Roman

*From:*Servercert-wg <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Servercert-wg
*Sent:* Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2024 07:20
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*Subject:* Re: [Servercert-wg] Discussion about single-purpose client authentication leaf certificates issued from a server TLS Issuing CA

On 15/5/2024 7:35 π.μ., Roman Fischer via Servercert-wg wrote:

    Dear Aaron,

    Interesting line of argumentation. Wouldn’t that conclude that
    -every- mis-issuance of a leaf certificate would be a violation of
    "all certificates that it issues MUST comply with one of the
    following certificate profiles" and thus would require the ICA to
    be revoked? That can’t be the intent of the regulation, right?


Roman,

TC non-TLS subCAs already have a defined certificate profile described in the BRs so there is no need to revoke such an ICA. I think you might be referring to non-TLS Subscriber Certificates issued by those TC non-TLS SubCAs?


Dimitris.


    Rgds
    Roman

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    *Sent:* Dienstag, 14. Mai 2024 16:59
    *To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <[email protected]>
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    *Subject:* Re: [Servercert-wg] Discussion about single-purpose
    client authentication leaf certificates issued from a server TLS
    Issuing CA

    On Tue, May 14, 2024, 02:33 Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via
    Servercert-wg <[email protected]> wrote:

        Is it ok for such an Issuing CA to create a single-purpose
        client authentication TLS Certificate, one that is structured
        according to RFC 5280 (thus can be successfully parsed by
        Relying Party RFC 5280-conformant software), contains
        an extKeyUsage extension which contains the /id-kp-clientAuth/
        and DOES NOT include the /id-kp-serverAuth/ KeyPurposeId?

    Speaking in a personal capacity, it is my opinion that no, such
    issuance is not acceptable.

    I agree that the resulting end-entity client-auth-only certificate
    is out of scope of the BRs, and is not in and of itself misissued.
    However, the issuing intermediate itself is still in scope of the
    BRs, and its behavior can be contained by them. By virtue of
    issuing the clientAuth cert, the issuing intermediate has violated
    the BRs requirement that "all certificates that it issues MUST
    comply with one of the following certificate profiles".

    One could even argue that, having issued a certificate which does
    not comply with a BR profile, the issuing intermediate must be
    revoked within 7 days, per BRs Section 4.9.1.2 (5): "The Issuing
    CA SHALL revoke a Subordinate CA Certificate [if...] the Issuing
    CA is made aware that the... Subordinate CA has not complied with
    this document".

    Aaron



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