Oh crap no.... its one of those question, rant here or rant on the
blog... here wins
On 09/01/07, Gervas Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> <<SOA and BPM are converging to the point that the "integration suite"
> market category is obsolete and is being replaced by emerging
> "integration-centric business process management suite" (IC-BPMS),
> according to Forrester Research Inc.
So this is a tech only view of both BPM and BPEL, which really isn't a
nice thing. Why on earth would business processes be "integration
centric"? They've always been "aggregation" centric but integration is
a purely technical thing.
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> The new category of software products focus on business process
> capabilities using the service-oriented approach to provide
> connectivity through Web services, as well as the ability to quickly
> build new composite applications to respond to changing market
> requirements, according to Forrester.
Or its because people(vendors) are building big process engines right
now and want to shoe-horn lots of technology into them to make them
look attractive.
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> The products in the new IC-BPMS category are "not your Dad's EAI,"
> Forrester analysts wrote in the report on the convergence titled, "The
> Forrester Wave: Integration-Centric Business Process Management
> Suites, Q4 2006 - IT View and Business View Tech Choice."
> "The products in this category have lowered the barrier between
> integration and new application development — particularly, the
> development of composite applications that extend the mindset of the
> organization to complete, cross-functional business processes," write
> the report's authors, Forrester analysts Ken Vollmer and Henry Peyret.
> "IC-BPMS tools are uniquely capable of supporting model-driven,
> composite application development based on existing or captured
> business metadata stored in embedded, SOA-based registry/repositories.
> This approach supports high levels of system artifact reuse and can
> frequently result in dramatically reduced coding for new application
> functionality."
Lets be clear here, they are talking of products like IBM's Process
Server and Sonic in its BPEL guise, its not a federate process
challege its a "building process application" challenge.
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> As SOA emerged in the past five years, vendors of the original EAI and
> BPM products have moved away from their proprietary technology to
> embrace a standards-based approach, the Forrester analysts say. In the
> past three years, this trend has been accompanied by a move to
> embedding the enterprise service bus (ESB) and BPM capabilities into
> their integration products, the report states.
1) They almost all already had a "bus" of some sort
2) They almost all already had some sort of BPM capabilities
Same pig, new lipstick.
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> While IC-BPMS may be maturing, the vendors products are not at the end
> point of where this technology is going, as two new business process
> capabilities are likely to emerge in the coming year, said Vollmer.
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> "Wider implementation of business event management (BEM) and complex
> event processing (CEP) will need to be implemented," he said. BEM and
> CEP are new technologies,
I'm glad they are new, otherwise I'd have thought that CEP and event
based systems were pretty old and already commoditised within several
vendors product suites.
> which according to Vollmer extend business
> processing to a higher level of sophistication. Forrester defines BEM
> as "the process of capturing real-time business events from multiple
> sources and assigning them to the appropriate decision-maker for
> resolution based on the business context of the events." The analyst
> firm defines CEP as technology that "automatically correlates events
> into patterns that may represent a threat or opportunity and
> orchestrates an appropriate response."
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> Surveying vendor capabilities in the IC-BPMS category, IBM, Tibco
> Software Inc. and webMethods Inc. came out on top in a end-of-year
> assessment by Forrester.
Its not EAI... its just EAI vendors that do it....
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I read through the rest but gave up. There isn't a single thing there
that talks about anything other than technology implementation, there
was nothing that talked about the actual business value or how this
would change the way people thought about systems.
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