--- In service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Jones" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2008/5/27 Rob Eamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > --- In service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com, "Steve 
Jones"
> > <jones.steveg@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some people think that SOA = Web Services therefore Web Services
> >> are SOA
> >>
> >> They are wrong.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> >>
> >> Architecture != high-level design
> >
> > Well, that's not all that it is but architecture is
> > design. "Architecture is the structure...". That sounds very much
> > like design.
> 
> I'm beginning to realise that the principles that I've used for 
> many a long year come from my personal experience.  Now I do tend 
> to inflict this view on people (with some success in terms of 
> improving IT) but what I'm using now is the IEEE definition where 
> it talks about the governance of design being architecture.  That 
> to me makes quite a bit of sense.

I would agree but we should be careful not to simply equate 
governance and architecture. Just a list of principles/constraints 
isn't sufficient as an architecture either. I think an architecture 
identifies the high level components and their relationships (classic 
definition of design), and also the principles which guide designs 
that refine the higher-level design (the aesthetics, if you will).

... 
> Agreed as these tend to govern the design.  You are right in that 
> the boundary isn't clear but I would say that architecture has 
> become a massively popular term in the last few years with every 
> man and his dog doing architecture (I've said it before that most 
> SO work is really SOD).

Agreed.
...

> Actually you are right it isn't just levels of abstraction it is
> principles.  Architecture gives the structure and form (I tend to 
> use it to organise teams at the start of the project/programme) 
> which then guides the rest, this is why I think it is different to 
> design.

Ah, it's good to see we agree. :-)

-Rob


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