Aha!

I knew there was something clever in Jeff's overly simplified wording.
A Rorchach test =)

Jeff's follow up question about "too much Type A" is a reasonable one...

My view is related to the concept of a "more perfect union" as
mentioned in the preamble of the US Constitution (which of course
establishes a Federated government). 

Thomas Jefferson speaks well to this topic:
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from
the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of
Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429 

Enforcement of policy can either be the enforcement of a previously
existing *agreement* or it can be a central mandate without any
bilateral consent.

Some forms of Governance are pretty clearly bilateral, such as
enforcement of service level *agreement*. So contracts are entered
into by two parties both seeking their own interest and therefore
explicitly consent.

So the policies that you are probably worried about are the ones that
ostensibly arent enacted between peer groups--to some extent this is
the function of the legislative group known as the COE (Center of
Excellence) or Competency Center or whatever you want to call it.

Now if you look at the establishment of the Federal Government in the
United States Constitution, the implicit Jeffersonian "consent" is
reflected in the fact that States have unlimited sovereignty while the
Federal Government has explicitly limited sovereignty. Also, the
Federal government has a tripartite structure including an independent
judiciary as well as a legislative function which manifests consent
through elected representation (congress).

In fact, enough people were uncomfortable with the implicit
Jeffersonian consent that the first ten amendments were declared (the
Bill of Rights) to explicitly curtail the power of the Federal Government.

Long analogy, but all I'm trying to say is there are good ways and
crappy ways of creating and enforcing policy and the "consent of the
governed" is a theme that is often lost.

Maybe we need an SOA Bill of Rights?

1) Free Speech:
some kind of annotation system that allows (wiki style) anyone
affected by a policy to provide feedback (such as "this is stupid and
here's why") for anyone to read

2) Right to bear arms:
dunno... maybe squirt-guns? Someone proposes a dumb policy in your CoE
and you get to squirt them with water?

3) Protection from quartering troops
heh.. how about a rule against having more than fifty percent of any
meeting be from IBM =)

4) Protection from search and seizure
...

5) Due Process
Is there a need for an independent judiciary for SOA?

etc...

The only other right I would like to preserve is the protection
against cruel and unusual punishment. This might limit the duration of
CoE meetings to 2 hours and would demand the presence of snacks such
as donuts.

Miko  

--- In [email protected],
"jeffrschneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Is Governance Killing SOA?" is my simple Rorschach personality test. 
> ---
> 
> When you read the question did you understand the question to mean:
> A. Is a LACK of governance killing SOA?
>    or
> B. Is TOO MUCH governance killing SOA?
>    or
> C. Is IMPROPER governance killing SOA?
> 
> Although some people interpret the question to have other meanings, 
> it has been my observation that most people think A or B. 
> 
> After asking this a number of times, my informal results have led to 
> two distinct results:
> 1. Enterprise Architects, I.T. Analysts, Press and Product Marketers  
> almost always interpret the question to mean "A" (lack of governance)
>    and
> 2. Application architects, software developers and project managers 
> almost always interpret the question to mean "B" or "C" (too much or 
> poor governance)
> 
> This begs the question, if Type "A" personalities get their way - 
> will the situation be improved?
> 
> Jeff
>


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