--- In [email protected], "htshozawa" 
<htshoz...@...> wrote:
>
> I think the MUST is coming here because the processes and services 
> weren't designed and implemented so they were flexible enough.

SOA/SO isn't about processes. It is about services.

> If the processes are services are inflexible, there is a need to 
> start at the enterprise level because they can't be changed so 
> much. But isn't this defeating the purpose of SOA?
> 
> We can apply SO principles to EA, but is this what we really want? 
> Wasn't SOA a solution to avoid all those failed EA initiatives and 
> projects because EA is actually very difficult to execute mainly 
> because of internal political reasons? With the tight economy, I 
> think it's going to get more difficult to start an EA initiative.

No, SOA was never intended as a replacement/substitute for EA. It is a style of 
architecture. Initially, Gartner described it as a style of application 
architecture. Many have found SO principles are a good fit for other 
architecture levels, including EA and BA. 

If one is applying SO principles to enterprise-scope planning activities 
(architecture is a planning exercise) then one is "doing" EA, regardless of 
style.

> I think the tools are getting much better, and it's getting to the 
> point of proper using them. I agree that if tools can't be properly 
> used, it's probably better to revert back to the test proven EA 
> because we at least know that works if it can be executed.

What do you consider to be "test proven EA?" 

-Rob


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