On 05/12/2020 13:40, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Alex,

This seems to resolve most of the Alan's concerns.
Though, I'm not sure if we can treat users that deploy and use agents as developers.

I think users that deploy agent or use tools to load agents can be called administrators :)

--alex


Otherwise, we may want to tweak the last sentence a little bit:
 "Developers or administrators that deploy agents, deploy applications that package an agent with the application, or anyone using a tools that loads agents into a running application, are responsible for verifying the trustworthiness of each
agent including the content and structure of the agent JAR file.


But let's wait for Alan's opinion.

Thanks,
Serguei


On 5/12/20 12:57, Alex Menkov wrote:
Hi Alan, Serguei,

lets try one more time :)

What about:

Agents can transform classes in arbitrary ways at load time, transform
modules, or transform the bytecode of methods of already loaded classes.
Developers or administrators that deploy agents, deploy applications that
package an agent with the application, or use tools that load agents into a running application, are responsible for verifying the trustworthiness of each
agent including the content and structure of the agent JAR file.


please let me know what do you thinks, I'll prepare & publish new webrev as soon as we get agreement about the paragraph.


--alex

On 05/12/2020 00:59, Alan Bateman wrote:
On 11/05/2020 22:14, Alex Menkov wrote:


Updated webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~amenkov/jdk15/java_instrument_spec/webrev.2/

--alex
This doesn't work for me because it drops the important point that the developer/admin is also responsible when deploying an agent that packages an agent with the application. Also anyone using a tool that loads agents into a running VM has responsibility too. So I think these points need to be included.

-Alan.

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