Thanks Guillaume for your answers.   A few more comments in-line.

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
First, I assume all components must handle the message exchange pattern defined by the service type (e.g. one-way, request-response, ...). Otherwise, I don't think the exchange could be carried out successfully.

Yes. Note that such limitations could be expressed by the component by using the isExchangeWithProviderOk and isExchangeWithConsumerOk methods. But these methods are only called by the NMR and can not be accessed by another component (the router). If such information may be usefull to you, please raise a JIRA.

Understood.  I don't have a need for this right now.

Now, is it a requirement of the JBI spec that MyRouter expose SameInterface on the JBI bus using ComponentContext#activateEndpoint and subsequently Component#getServiceDescription? If so, does ServiceMix require this as well?

The JBI spec, in 5.5.2.2, says: " the component MUST supply service metadata concerning services it provides in its implementation of the getServiceDescription(ServiceEndpoint) method ". ServiceMix does not require such information, but if provided uses the wsdl to retrieve the interfaces implemented by the endpoint. Note that ServiceMix can only handle WSDL 1 documents. We are planning to use Apache Woden in the future to parse and use wsdl 2 documents.

Ok, that clarifies it. I'm looking forward to WSDL 2 support for my Axis2 binding component. More on this later since I don't know if it's going to be a strict requirement.

I'm going to go out on a limb now and say that MyConsumer cannot be (deterministically) linked to MyRouter by relying on service type routing because we have more than one component exposing SameInterface. Thus, MyConsumer must specify MyRouter's fully qualified service endpoint name. Is this right?

Depending on how you design your components, you could also use the service name, without the full endpoint, provided that each of your component have a different service name. But using the ServiceEndpoint is the only way to be sure about the target endpoint. Note that if your router want to access the list of activated endpoints dynamically (with the JBI API methods) it will receive a list of ServiceEndpoint.

That's also good to know. I was not clear whether the routing could happen with the service name alone, or if a full service endpoint was required. Service name alone works as well (but may resolve to multiple endpoints).

Based on section 5.4.3.3 of the JBI specification, the service endpoint name can be a hard link, a soft link or a standard link as determined by in the service unit's meta-data. I guess the choice between those is a deployment preference. I'd be curious to hear from people who have experience about which approach work best for them.

This is a not well tested area of ServiceMix. Maybe someone has already used that, but I am not sure.

Alright, I'll thread carefully.

I'll assume MyRouter is driven by some sort of business policy, such as content-based routing. For example, the policy could be "route all transactions under $1000 to ServiceA and those equal or over $1000 to ServiceB." MyRouter must therefore be configured with rules and with service endpoint names of ServiceA, ServiceB, etc.

Once again, is it a requirement of the JBI spec that service provider components (ServiceA, ServiceB, ...) expose SameInterface on the JBI bus? And if so, does ServiceMix enforce this?

I am not sure of what you are saying: I do not see how ServiceMix (or any other JBI container) can know that two endpoints should expose the same interface. The JBI spec says that each endpoint should have a wsdl description, but this description is given by the component. If your endpoints do not implement the same interface, then routing will behave according to this fact.

You answered my question above. I wanted to know if ServiceA and ServiceB needed to implement getServiceDescription(ServiceEndpoint) and they do.

Another question I have is whether it would be advantageous to hook a policy at the NMR level instead of having a routing component on the JBI bus.

The pros of using a policy are imho,
* you do not have to worry about selecting the possible endpoints : you can leverage interface based routing and the use of isExchangeWithXXXOk methods (if your components implements them)
 * easy to write
Cons:
 * ServiceMix specific
 * unmanageable (installation / deployment / stats ...)
The last point is imho the one that makes me think, that if the policy becomes involves business rules, it may be better to use a router. This may be argued, especially if the rules are not hard-coded, but stored externally.

Good points. I'll try the component-based router approach and see how it goes.

thanks again!
alex

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