Thank you.  I really do appreciate the help.  This participants in this list
are top-notch.

I think that I am starting to understand some of the classloading logic, but
I'm sure that I have a boatload of stuff to still learn.

Anyway, I did end up including the spring-hibernate (and a few others that
are used).  

That seemed to get me past this concern.

As far as deciding whether to include either the full spring jar or not, I
don't have the knowledge yet.

Thank you all again,
James



gnodet wrote:
> 
> If you don't use inverse classloading, the hibernate classes
> will be loaded from the same classloader than the spring class,
> i.e., the container classloader.  That's why you have a CNFE.
> You can put the hibernate jars in the lib/optional folder.
> 
> The other way is to use inverse classloading, but you may want to
> try to include only the spring-hibernate jar instead of the full spring
> jar. (maybe we should do that in servicemix, i mean, only including
> the spring-core jar instead of the full one).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> 
> 

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