I agree with George.  I think that's why most of us like GUI.  It's
friendly.

Thanks to all of you who gave my advice on my question.

Jian


On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, George Ter-Saakov wrote:

> I did not understand.
> Are you saying once I compiled my code with J++ I can not use it with
> anything else except Microsoft JVM?
>
> Wrong.
>
> I developed a lot of servlet on J++ and then move compiled files on AS400.
> And they are working perfectly.
> J++ gives me conditional compilation (i.e. #ifdef DEBUG ...) So I can have
> debug version and release version.
> Apparently that then I will not be able compile this code with any other
> tool. But if I want to I can not use that MS J++ extension and in Options of
> J++ I can even set checkbox that I do not want to use them and compiler will
> generate warnings.
>
> So I do not pay any price for using J++ except I have an IDE I like and I
> have language extension which I think standard Java is lacking.
>
> George.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Luc Saint-Elie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:05 PM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Re: Servlet vs VJ++ 6.0
> >
> > George,
> >
> > I think you are confused by two things:
> >
> > 1) the JVM (SUN, Blackdown, IBM, Kaffe, MS..)
> > 2) the development tool (JBuilder, Visual Cafe, Visual Age, MS J++...)
> >
> > Considering the JVM its the key to potability. If your servlets are
> > compiled only against a specific JVM (being Microsoft or anybody else one
> > I
> > don't intend to start the holly war), you loose potability
> >
> > Considering the development tool you can, use any tool you want and MS or
> > Borland one are not (IMHO) the best ones, as their main point is the
> > interface.. and the servlet as no interface.
> >
> > The other point is the debugging features and I don't know how MS (or
> > Borland) perform in this area.
> >
> > But even if MS development tool has great debugging features, being forced
> > to use MS JVM seem to me a very exepnsive price to pay.
> >
> >
> > Le 13:14 10/11/99 -0500, George Ter-Saakov a �crit:
> > >Microsoft JVM is portable enough to do projects.
> > >It's fast ( despite Visual AGE and his always corrupted workspace.) And
> > not
> > >so buggy as J++ Builder ( not fastest program too ).
> > >
> > >For me there is only one competitor for J++  VisualCafe but I did not
> > have
> > >time to evaluate it completely.
> > >
> > >George.
> >
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