>>> QuantumMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10-May-00 11:35:16 AM >>> >Its obvious to me you know little about Java. That is a very strange conclusion to draw. In fact I have been on this list since before it started (when it was another list) I have been involved in the development of several servlet engines and GNUJSP. I am a member of the Sun expert team which is drawing up the next revision of the Servlet API. >These forums are for helping people out. THIS forum is for helping people out about Java Servlets. Nothing else. Other forums are used for other things. >Imagine what the guy you sounded off to thinks. I didn't "sound off" I told him p;olitely that his question was off-topic and should be sent elsewhere. >Now he's afraid to ask questions. Or perhaps now he is aware that he shouldn't ask off-topic questions in this forum. >You can't control what people post on forums such as this. We can persuade people that they should obey the rules (there are rules - you see them when you subscribe and Sun should post them to the list once a week). >If you don't like it, kindly just delete it and move >on. I have 700 messages to wade through every few days >looking for things I can learn from or help others with. How long have you been on the list Charles? Since the end of April? I (and several others still kicking around) have been here helping people nearlly every day for years. >I do it for your benefit too. I've been programming since >the late 60's. That's great - we really appreciate having you around - but please follow the rules. >There's always something to learn even from >people who post weird questions. Let the Internet be. I think you are confusing alt.* newsgroups with a Sun list for discussion of Java Servlets. It has been proved that we lose experts from the list when we allow a lot of noise. And that's what the question was: noise. > Readers do not appreciate belligerence, even mine. I don't think I was belligerent. I may have been sarcastic but only in an attempt at levity. >Seriously, servlets are Java classes. Text Areas are java >classes. I use them in many of my applications. You can write >a servlet to do a chat room. Agreed (I've even done it /8-) >A text area would be a logical choice to include in the >application. On the client side yes.. but following your logic, since one could hold request-parameter strings in a Vector, it would be okay to ask: "how does a Vector work?" Yet it is NOT okay to ask that question because it can be found out anywhere rather than wasting the time of people who are committed to helping genuine problems. >There's NOTHING wrong with posting questions concerning >these topics to this Servlet forum. Yes there is. There is also something wrong with what you did - which was to reply to an off-topic post ON the list. If you take the attitude that asking anything is okay (there are over 3,000 members now - do you really want a free for all?) the you should at least have the respect to answer OFF the list so as not to make it even noisier. >I am positive that the thousands of readers and writers >who particpate in this forum would agree with me, especially the Sun >company. If you bothered to read the archives you would note that we have had this conversation many times before. The list membership has always agreed that off-topic postings are not allowed, it has also signalled many times that graphical stuff is off-topic. As far as Sun is concerned, since they wrote the rules in the first place you will note that they agree with me, or rather I agree with them. >Have a good day sir. And you. Nic Ferrier ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". Archives: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html Resources: http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html
