Please DO NOt do this, I also hate the volume of trivial mail BUT there is a
price for democracy. Newbies will become oldies eventually. IMHO the volume is
mostly due to the popularity of Java and Servlets. I personally despise 'Forum
Nazis'!!!!!!! (-: We could VOTE on banning people after a certain number of
infractions (this would be much more democratic :-), maybe over 20 votes the
address would be banned for a few months? Or would you like the appointment of
a 'Forum KGB'?
Regards - George
Stefan Demetz wrote:
> As posted before:
> Listmaster,
> please put a system in place
> where newbies are forced to read
> a minimum of information (tutorials,
> recommended books,dev kits, tools,
> FAQs, servers) before joining the lists,
> otherwise every day we get the same
> questions and the list gets very low tech
> You could do this by sending the links to
> this info first,then delaying the subscription
> by about 24 hours or so, so they can read up
> and download the basics
> OR
> split the list into one or more subtopics such as:
> newbie
> syntax
> databases, JDBC and drivers
> servlet engines specifics & installation
> state(session) management
> encryption/authentication/security
> scripting , xml,wml,wap ...
>
> discussions
> e.g servlets vs asp (or php,perl,cgi,..)
>
> If you need a pointer on how to run lists
> have a look at www.asplists.com : They have
> several hundred lists on everything touching
> ASP remotely
>
> SD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 September 2000 18:57
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Thin skinned people.
>
> And you... why do you send that.... and me.. why did I send this???? ad
> infinitum.....
> beware... these messages *are* the virus
>
> Milt Epstein wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Godbey, David wrote:
> >
> > > Formerly RE: OFF TOPIC: RE: Running servlets in tomcat. RE:Date! RE:
> all
> > > the rude people
> > >
> > > Why do we waste so much band width on this drivel? It infuriates
> > > me. If you have issue with something someone said, why can't you
> > > take it off line, one-on-one?
> >
> > I don't know, why did you send this to the list?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 4:36 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: RE: Running servlets in tomcat. RE:Date! RE: all
> > > the rude people
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Yamijala, Kalyan wrote:
> > >
> > > > I absolutely agree with you guys!! Active and advanced users like
> > > > you will obviously feel frustrated. But most users don't care to
> > > > read the policies when they join the user groups. And more
> > > > importantly most users "do not realize" that the questions they put
> > > > through are not meant to be asked here.
> > >
> > > Sounds like you're saying that "most users" are lazy (and hence, by
> > > extension, selfish and inconsiderate). If that's the case, I don't
> > > really care what they think. (I don't necessarily think that's the
> > > case, but there are some that are.)
> > >
> > >
> > > > The point I was trying to make was that the "tone" of emails
> > > > discouraging users from sending mails doesn't sound good. Some
> > > > comments sound like admonishment rather than discouragement. And
> > > > these comments invite unnecessary mails like the one that came as a
> > > > reply to Srini's.
> > > >
> > > > Why am I concerned? I am new to the group and servlets, and however
> > > > careful I may be, I may stumble across questions that I do not
> > > > realize are off topic, basic or even "stupid". And I wouldn't feel
> > > > comfortable seeing replies that sound like "get the hell outta
> > > > here".
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > I think you may be overly concerned -- I think what people are really
> > > asking is that you think about whether your question is appropriate (a
> > > little common sense and experience comes in handy there) and make some
> > > effort to seek out the answer first on your own. If you give some
> > > indication that you've done that, I don't think people will hassle you.
> > >
> >
> > Milt Epstein
> > Research Programmer
> > Software/Systems Development Group
> > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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