I think this is where Mark and I will disagree.

To ignore users that do not have cookies enabled is to limit the
usefulness and utility of your (or your company's)site.  I, myself,
from time to time have problems with cookies because of my firewall
settings.  Are you both saying that those times that you're unable to
write a cookie to my machine the *hell* with me.

That's so ass.  YOUR job is to increase the usefulness and utility of
your site; consider your opportunity costs of this foregone conclusion
(excuse me loved economics). It really doesn't take that much to
embrace the *non*cookie user -for whatever their reason.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Basuki, Rendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Session Time out

> Thanks for the motivating opinion Mark ^_^ I really need a good excuse
> against user who hates cookies
>
> Rendra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Session Time out
>
>
> My personal opinion.
>
> Cookies are so pervasive that if anybody in your target population
> (givens/he knows how to turn cookies off) that has cookies
> disabled, I say don't
> worry about it.  If they don't want your service(s), screw 'em!  I
> take the
> same approach when coding JavaScript - I never use the <!--  in
> case you are
> so lame to use a browser that cannot read JavaScript, then find my
> annoyingJavaScript as text on your webpage -->.  I mean, this is
> ridiculous.  Why
> code around st00pid people?  "st00pid" meaning people who are
> technologically aware enough to disable JavaScript, yet you want
> to include
> them in your universe.
>
> You can better spend your time writing code for those that
> actually have
> joined the latter 20th century online.
>
> Cheers!
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nic Ferrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Session Time out
>
>
> > >>> "Basuki, Rendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25-Apr-01 1:44:56 AM >>>
> >
> > >I can use cookie to remeber the user entrance, but
> > >cookie can be disabled. So, any idea how to solve
> > >my problem?
> >
> >    String ref=request.getHeader("referrer");
> >    response.sendRedirect(ref);
> >
> > Not a very clean thing to do though.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nic Ferrier
> >
> >
>
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