Some of what you say sounds about right. Nothing stops you from 
developing on the RI and deploying on something else -except maybe 
minor compatibility issues that you may run into. 

AFAIK no one has told the jBoss group they're doomed. If the original 
poster is very certain of that then maybe he should pass on that 
information to the group.

I personally have no concerns that my App/WebServer of choice are still 
going to be around.  On the other hand Lutris did just stop their open 
source project. . . apparently some financial concerns.  The jBoss 
group just had this discussion about the CTS fees and unless Sun makes 
some arrangement on the CTS fee that jBoss will not be officially 
certifying their product.  

~Tonia 


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Foxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:39 am
Subject: Re: No money?

> As far as I can make out Sun are just talking about the 
> application server
> that comes bundled with the j2ee SDK, which is just intended for 
> developmentand not production use.
> 
> So whats to stop you using it to develop your app and then 
> deploying with a
> different app server?
> Or am I missing something?
> I certainly hope not since I just persuaded my boss that we should 
> move all
> our web stuff over from MS to java and linux ;�)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 17 October 2001 21:43
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: No money?
> > 
> > 
> > Costin L. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > >   Hi!
> > >
> > >   I've put this question on the list some time ago and I 
> > was more than
> > > pleased with the answer but now I have to ask it again due 
> > to the changes.
> > > As far as I know 'till now the j2e platform was free, 
> > meaning that you could
> > > use the APIs but have to pay if you wanted your product to 
> > be certified.
> > > Fair enough. There are also a some free(or almost) java 
> > aware servers like
> > > tomcat, jBOSS or even Resin. Now I've seen the new rules 
> > applied by Sun
> > > regarding j2ee platform. The jBoss project is almost doomed 
> > and the web page
> > > for the download of j2ee specifies that you could use the 
> > product for
> > > developing and bla,bla,bla but not for production. I'm 
> > using a lot servlets
> > > and JSPs and like every one else I am more than pleased with 
> the new
> > > specifications (especially the filter part). I'ev got a lot 
> > of pages built
> > > using these tool and I intend to do so because they are 
> > good and FREE. Or
> > > not any more? So my question is : using servlets and JSPs 
> > or even EJBs APIs
> > > for web pages now costs? Does this rule applies to all 
> > version or just the
> > > latest?
> > 
> > I don't know about the situation in EJB land, but regarding 
> > servlets and
> > JSP, Tomcat is still free, is still downloadable and usable 
> > in development
> > AND production environments, and is still the servlet 
> > container used by the
> > J2EE reference implementation...
> > 
> >     Pier
> > 
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