Thank you for this information.  The person who told me about it tested on
some other webservers,  I forget the names and didn't keep his e-mail.  Next
time I will
do a better job :-)  I told him to post on this group but I guess he
forget...

Gang

----- Original Message -----
From: "Milt Epstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Is JSP or Servlet more secure?


> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Mike Silvers wrote:
>
> > I am using Tomcat as an Apache plug in for my servlet engine.
> > Neither of these characters will cause the jsp to show the source.
> > Can you direct me to a resource that will inform me about these
> > issues?  I have never heard of these issues while using Tomcat as
> > the servlet/jsp container.  I would like to evaluate the security of
> > our server.
>
> What version of Tomcat are you using?  This was a problem in something
> like versions 4.0.4 and 4.1.12, but it's been fixed in later versions.
> You can check the archives of the tomcat-user list for more info --
> the vulnerability (and fixes/patches) were announced there.
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gang Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Is JSP or Servlet more secure?
> >
> >
> > > sometimes ago a friend of mine found that some jsp engines will show
jsp
> > > source by appending
> > > chars like '/' or %00 (there are more examples).  The cause of that is
> > sun's
> > > java file io package
> > > will open a file even if there are wired stuff appended to the end.
At
> > the
> > > same time the engine
> > > think the requested string is not a jsp because there are things
appended
> > to
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Since you brought it up I think it is a good time to put it on the
mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Gang
> > >
> > > The source of the jsp could be hamfull to be seen if it contains
passwords
> > > to database systems
> > > or other such info.  It might be a good idea to use a bean to to that
kind
> > > of the stuff and just let
> > > the jsp invoke the bean
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Is JSP or Servlet more secure?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your quick response Mike. One reason I asked this
question -
> > On
> > > > Google, Servlet+Security gives 258,000 hits, while JSP+Security nets
> > > > 1,240,000 hits.
> > > >
> > > > One reason could be that since JSPs are easier to use, and more is
> > > > written about it.
> > > >
> > > > There was another reason it could be so (speculation follows). The
> > servlet
> > > > classes are put in WEB-INF that is only readable by server (at least
in
> > > > Tomcat).
> > > > JSPs are generally in HTML area that are easier to get to. Even
> > > > generated servlets
> > > > from JSPs land up in work directory, that may be easier to get to
than
> > > > WEB-INF.
> > > > Just wondering whether this relatively easier access to source of
JSPs
> > > > may be a
> > > > potential vulnerability.
> > > >
> > > > das
> > > >
> > > > Mike Silvers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >No.  The main difference is the ease of use for creating HTML
> > documents.
> > > > >The jsp makes it easier to create HTML documents.   When a jsp is
used,
> > > it
> > > > >is first compiled into a servlet and then used.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:12 PM
> > > > >Subject: Is JSP or Servlet more secure?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>For creating a totally new web site, is there any difference from
> > > > >>security point of view of using only servlets or using only JSPs?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>das
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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