Re: Theory and fact

[Art F Brooks]

Sorry I am late but, I must comment on Mr. Zani comments.   Art     I would like to say that you  are making common mistakes in you interpretation.     (1) Life on other planets, intelligent or not,  does not have to be like life on Earth. It is egoistical to think it would be.   (2) Because we do not have the full understanding of interstellar space travel  does not meat that it is impossible. People said man would never fly and that the human body could not withstand speeds necessary to fly 100 years ago.  Look at what we have done in a short time.   (3) As far as cover ups go, I spoke to people who lived in Roswell in 1947 and it was not a weather balloon that crashed. The military went nuts and did everything, including treating people with bodily harm to cover up something that crashed and was found in Corona. http://www.cseti.org/crashes/016.htm has a video of Mr. Jim Ragsdale's (an eye witness) testimony in the hospital as he was dying.  A dying man's testimony is considered to be true and my be entered as evidence in any court of law.    =====================================================     On Thu, 30 May 2002 10:05:49 -0400 "Jeff Zani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hey guys, let me begin by saying i believe that SETI is a wonderful > effort in the search for "otherworldly" existences of sentient > beings. > Although reports file in from all over the world in regard to > strange > craft and the like, I can't help but believe one of two > possibilities: > > First: > With the physical improbability of interstellar travel i.e. distance > and > time, i believe more and more that perhaps whatever it is we > perceive as > alien may have actually always been here with us. Many parts of the > world remain unexplored, such as our oceans and earths crust. This > would > explain many scientific anomalies in and around the top several > miles of > crust. Also, looking through reports dating back many years, > there's > been a common thread of reports of crafts entering and exiting > large > bodies of water all over the world, USO's and the like. The very > nature > of our planets birth is one of high probability. For any planet to > evolve as ours did and is, just look at the variables. If we were > just > feet closer or further from our star, we wouldn't support life. If > the > primordial soup hadn't mixed in such a way it couldn't support even > the > smallest, most simple forms of life. I firmly believe that, even > with > the billions upon billions of galaxies throughout the universe the > odds > of another planet sharing all the variables which allowed us to "be" > are > too remote to question. This of course would lead us to question > high > technology and space travel within another community(alien), if they > so > existed, that would allow one to travel vast amounts of space and > time. > The laws of physics apply to the universe complete. We must adhere > to > these laws as anyone else would. It's just not physically possible > to > traverse such distances. > > Second: > These sightings and what have you are of human origin. We all know > how > secretive and distrustful government agencies have to be in regard > to > national security. There was a time when we actually believed the > great > pyramids were constructed by alien biengs, we now know that is > untrue. > Also was the time we believed that crop circles were of paranormal > origin, this we also discovered to be untrue. It seems to be our > nature > to question, to learn and to fear. We consistently have > underestimated > the knowledge of our primitive ancestors time and time again. This > leads > me to believe that all high tech craft seen are of human origin, > our > technology leaps by the minute, it makes perfect sense. Not to > mention > the guile of our governments; they realize these things and cause > confusion and feed mis information. People would much rather > fantasize > of alien beings than realize their government is spending billions > upon > billions in military projects. This misinformation insulates the > government against question and keeps the game of national security > and > national defense as a guessing game (thus preventing actual > confrontation). It has, through military and NSA contacts that most > of > these craft are unmanned drones which have operated for close to 60 > years. > > Anyway, i think SETI is great, and i truly hope to be proven wrong > in > the quest for extraterrestrial life. > > Thank you > > > > >         Jeff Zani >         The Interactive Hitman >         Lieber Levett Koenig Farese Babcock >         299 West Houston St. 13th Fl >         New York, NY 10014 >         ph: 212.206.5824 > > > ---------- > > From:         McAllister, Marc > > Reply To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent:         Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:28 AM > > To:         '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject:         RE: XP problem with seti > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > XP Pro can, if asked, attempt to stop unauthorised *incoming* > traffic > > but it > > doesn't look at anything that's outgoing. > > > > Can you ping the SETI server from the problem machine when it has > > problems > > sending completed units? > > > > Regards, > > Marc McAllister > > Technical Analyst > > > > Global Crossing > > Basingstoke, Hampshire > > Tel: 01256 732545 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent:        Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:08 PM > > > To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject:        XP problem with seti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi People > > > > > > Im having a bit of a problem. > > > On an AMD Athlon XP 1800+. > > > It has WinXP-pro, with the new cpu and mobo. > > > This is on an always on Roadrunner connection. > > > It is sitting behind a Cable modem & router/firewall. > > > > > > Heres where the problem comes in, > > > seti does not send out packets results consistently. > > > Im using Seti Spy and seti cmd 3.03 > > > Three other computers behind the router/firewall are able to > send & > > get > > > new > > > packets. > > > > > > Does Xp have it own firewall that is not letting seti packets > out? > > > How do I check it? > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > I do not think this has anything to do with Seti bandwidth > problem. > > > > > > JohnW Cramer > > > cramer_win98cmd > > > -- > > > JWCramer-HillTopUSA > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ohio Ancestors: CRAMER MARCHAL SCHMITT<SMITH>HIPPLE TRICK LOY > > > Roots are from Darke Co. 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