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From: mark staples


Not Your Grandfather's Depression
by Peter Schiff
October 17, 2008

The current stock market crash has spurred a vital national debate about the 
causes and catalysts of the Great Depression. The dominant school of thought 
believes that the stubborn refusal of then president Herbert Hoover to 
intervene after the stock market crash of 1929, and his preference for free 
market solutions, led directly to the ensuing decade-long catastrophe. 
Through this lens, our leaders assure us that the most recent raft of 
government measures will prevent another episode of bread lines, 
Hoovervilles and pencil salesmen. As usual they have it completely wrong. In 
my view, the Depression was created precisely because Hoover followed the 
path that our government is now taking.

When the stock market bubble of the Roaring Twenties (which was created as a 
result of the loose monetary policy of the newly created Federal Reserve) 
finally popped, Hoover would not allow market forces to correct the 
imbalances. His policies were aimed at propping up unsound businesses, 
artificially supporting prices, particularly wages, and providing Federal 
funds for public works projects. These moves went well beyond the 
progressive reforms of Teddy Roosevelt, and established Hoover as the most 
interventionist president ever up to that point. In fact, much of what 
eventually became the New Deal had its roots in Hoover's policies.

However, at the time, there were those who recommended a different course. 
Andrew Mellon, the long-serving Secretary of the Treasury whom Hoover had 
inherited from the prior two Republican Administrations, was labeled by 
Hoover as a "leave it alone isolationist" who wanted to "liquidate labor, 
liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, and liquidate real estate." Hoover 
would have none of it. In fact, during his nomination speech for a potential 
second term, Hoover bragged "We determined that we would not follow the 
advice of the bitter liquidationists and see the whole body of debtors of 
the United States brought to bankruptcy and the savings of our people 
brought to destruction."

Hoover chose to ignore the sound advice of his Treasury Secretary (in 
contrast to today where the current Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is 
actually leading the charge over the cliff) and instead used every tool at 
his disposal to "fix" the problem. As a result, rather than allowing a 
recession to run its course, with healthy and rapid liquidations of the 
mal-investments built up during the boom, Hoover inadvertently created what 
became the Great Depression.

When Roosevelt took office he continued the same failed policies only on a 
grander scale. The magnitude and the idiocy of many New Deal programs, such 
as the wage and price setting National Recovery Administration (NRA), 
compounded the problems. So while Mellon's advice would have caused a sharp 
but relatively brief economic downturn (which occurred after the Panic of 
1907, for example), the Depression plodded on for nearly a decade until the 
country began gearing up for the Second World War.

In an amazing feat of revisionist history, somehow Hoover's interventionist 
policies have been completely forgotten. It is taken as fundamental that his 
inaction led to the Depression and Roosevelt's "heroics" got us out. 
Unfortunately, since we have learned nothing from history, we are about to 
repeat the very mistakes that lead to the most dire economic circumstance of 
the last century.

A major difference however, is that the structure of the U.S economy today 
is far weaker than it was in the fall of 1929. Years of reckless consumer 
borrowing and spending, and enormous trade and budget deficits have resulted 
in a hollowed out industrial base and an unmanageable mountain of debt owed 
to foreign creditors. Instead of the support of a strong currency backed by 
gold, the public now must deal with a modern Fed free to print as much money 
as politicians want. So rather than getting the benefits of falling consumer 
prices (as happened during the Depression), consumers today will contend 
with much higher consumer prices, even as the economy contracts.

With Barack Obama now waiting in the wings to conjure a newer New Deal, far 
larger than even FDR could have imagined, and at a time when we cannot even 
afford the old one, this will not be your grandfather's Depression. It may 
be much worse.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/69421


Referring to the "Bail out".....
"This was the largest single act of class warfare 
in the modern history of this country. It is a direct attack 
on the American people's ability to be able to stabilize 
their homes and their neighborhoods. This single vote 
will define the careers of everyone. We are back to taxation 
without representation, to markets that are openly rigged."
-- Dennis Kucinich

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism 
because it is a merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini





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On October 17th, 2008 VoteNader2008 says:
Justin Raimondo just wrote a great article(they all are really) at antiwar.com 
about how we are repeating the past. The militarization on the economy and 
eventually labor. How we are ripe(my opinion) to be the new German of WWI(and 
like German, the US will take the fall while the bankers/globalists fund it, 
profit from it, and continue manipulating the world from behind the curtain).

Things are so screwed up, stay OUT of the military! You're just going to be 
their TOOL for suppression(oh, I can see the psychopaths signing up as we 
speak).

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13601




additional commentary:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/69421


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