John Burton,

RE:  "Secure" Web sites and workstations behind STN 

I've just clicked on your reference:

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/sign-in/002-4555812-0253619. 

and I got the amazon.com secure login site, no problem.

Running behind STN 2.1.3, but I'm using Netscape 3.0 gold running under
Windows 3.1

Now I just tried to attach to the same site running on Internet Explorer
3.0 (behind the same STN) running under Win95 (4.00.95.0), and the first
message I get is in a "Security Information (yellow exclamation point)
box:

The Intenet Site you are about to view uses a certificate that is
expired or not yet valid

[view certificate]  [about security]

            [OK]    [CANCEL]

If I click on OK then I get to the site like in Netscape above, but

If I click cancel then I get a box that says:

Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/sign-in/002-4555812-0253619.
The operation completed successfully.

This could be related to your problem.  It appears that somehow you are
getting my equivalent of "cancel"

Interesting, though, I get the operation completed successfully and you
the get the specified procedure could not be found.

When I click [view certificate], I can see details about the certificate
fields but what is most interesting to me is a message at the top of the
box that says:

The certificat you are using is not yet valid.  Make sure the time on
your computer is correct.

In my case, my time is not correct it stays at Jan 01, 1996.  Every time
I boot a "date < date.txt" in the autoexec pipes the date back to Jan
01, 1996.  (it is a test machine, and I need to keep a certain software
package from ever expiring after 30 days - obviously it doesn't expire
if I keep the time set to Jan 01, 1996. As it has been for the past 3.5
years).

The point here is, that possibly system time and the certificate (which
may be based upon something in your cookies file) might be out of sync. 
And you are apparently not getting the interim screen that I get - you
just bomb out.

Maybe try renaming your cookie file and see if you can get in.  All in
all, I don't think its STN, but rather your browser/cookies/certificate
settings.  Try installing Netscape and maybe with a clean cookie file
you can get in (I like Netscape a whole lot better, and I use it on my
other Win95, Win98, WinNT computers as well).

Good Luck,
Arnie
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