You might want to set up another group to discuss International 
English?
Although I guess this forum, is available for selective use.
As long as you don't go overboard.
However, Anything to do with Shavian, could you please move it over 
to the new ShawAlphabet Yahoo forum?

Regards, Paul V.

P.S. I also agree that it is easier to start anew rather than to 
revise the T.O. It is hard to get a handle on T.O. You don't even 
know what sound you are talking about without recourse to examples 
or I.P.A. 

--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Kate and Ze,
> 
> This is an interesting thread.  
> The conventional wisdom is that radical reforms are too hard to 
sell.
> 
> Kate argues that it is easier to regularize everything.
> Shavians probably agree that it is easier to start anew than to 
revise what 
> we have.
> 
> I think that the threshold of a sellable reform is that one that 
is over 85% 
> phonemic.
> This would make English as easy to learn and use as Spanish.  
> 
> --Steve
> 
> > KATE: I'd certainly consider either of these possible for 
an "international
> > English," and would consider working for a group that wanted to
> > establish one of these possibilities as a new standard. However, 
I
> > think that the public would not regard either /2/ or /3/ as 
sufficient
> > change in speech to justify a change in spelling that would 
signal and
> > "go with" the new variety.
> 
> ZDR: Wich public do you m?? The anglo public or the non-anglo? 
Enyway 2 and 
> 3 is
> much mor ch?ge than wat the general anglo public would accept. The 
non-anglo 
> public would accept n?ly ENY simplific?ion (regularization), in 
> pronunci?ion or spelling. 
> 
> ZDR: The problem is that it is very dificult to m? them USE
> it or be prepaird to use it befor a substantial part of lerners do 
it (as
> very few americans would be prepaird to lern a spanish with 
simplif?
> grammer). And wair do you get that substantial number of p?el who 
is
> prepaird to lern and use something without a substantial number of 
p?el
> b?ng prepaird to lern and use it befor?
> 
> > KATE: I think that we can more easily sell "Let's regularize 
everything - at
> > least for international business/basic communications use"





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