I myself have the stage3 from fwdperformance. But I
still use a grainger though. IMO you would be safer to
get an aftermarket ECU from either fwdperformance.com
or turbosunleashed.com and then grainger it.
--- "Mullikin, Stefan P"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Depends on how aggressive the calibration is.  If
> they do a decent job,
> the car should run fairly clean.  Worst case, you
> can swap back to an
> older module just for the testing.
> 
> BTW, the Mopar Performance computers aren't legal
> for the street.  The
> Shelby Stage II computers are.
> 
> Stefan Mullikin
> Portland, OR
> Co-Founder
> PNW-SDAC
> http://www.pnw-sdac.org
> 1980 Fiat X-1/9
> 1984 Dodge Rampage 2.2
> 1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
> 1987 Shelby CSX #106
> 1988 Shelby CSX-T #3
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Robert Carita
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Fwd: SD> Performance Cal vs. Grainger Valve
> on a T1
> 
> Has anyone had emmissons problems with a custom
> calibrated logic module?
> 
> Does anyone know what the story is with MA
> emmissions testing?  Last I
> heard, the software for the newer dyno-type test was
> found to be faulty.
> MA had suspended all emmissions testing and gone
> with just a safety
> inspection.  Can anyone confirm this?
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dan G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:03:59 -0400
> Subject: RE: SD> Performance Cal vs. Grainger Valve
> on a T1
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Your understanding of it is right on the money.
> 
> Basically a grainger valve will let you adjust the
> boost as high as you
> want it, within the physical limits of the valve's
> spring.  On a T1
> you'll never max out the valve's range of
> adjustment.
> 
> On the other hand, as you stated correctly, besides
> just raising boost
> the performance computer will also give you a hotter
> spark curve and
> enrich fuel delivery so as to accomodate its higher
> boost and more
> advanced timing.  IOW it's not just a boost
> controller.
> 
> Consider the following: I control boost in my GLHS
> with a grainger
> valve.
> And even with boost at the same level, there is
> still a big difference
> between the stock and stage 2 computers due to the
> other variables.
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Dan Greenberg
> 1987 Shelby Charger GLHS #137 (g-valve 16psi, base
> timing 15^, stage 2
> LM)
> 1984 Plymouth Duster 2.2 n/a
> Queens, New York
> IM: GDBomber
> ICQ: 2238403
> <http://i2.i-2000.com/~dagger/glhs/>
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Robert Carita
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SD> Performance Cal vs. Grainger Valve on a
> T1
> 
> Having recently gotten back into the worlds of turbo
> Dodge cars....I
> have a question?
> 
> What is the difference between a performance
> calibrated logic module,
> say one good for 14 psi boost, and using a Grainger
> valve and bypassing
> the logic module all together?
> 
> It is my understanding that the LM allow for a more
> aggressive timing
> and fuel schedules, helping you stay rich at higher
> boosts.  The
> Grainger valve uses the stock fuel schedules.
> 
> I purchased a stage II LM from FWDperformance and
> was wondering if the
> Grainger valve (or maybe a two stage Grainger valve
> setup) will give me
> more than the initial 7 PSI of boost or is this as
> good as it gets.
> 
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