Sorry. I didn't realize that was the impression. My 'group' is the 3
engineers on the Google FeedServer project. When I approached some of
the Shindig members, they immediately suggested I post my intentions
to the list.

On to more technical matters:

One of the new additions to the Abdera project that is in 0.4 is the
concept of data adpaters. These adapters are essentially ways to
create feeds for existing data sources, like a database, filesystem or
ldap server. We've designed a few of them so that you only need to
edit a configuration file and you have read-write Atom Publishing --
no need to alter the code. Abdera is also a framework that allows you
to build your own adapters. Abdera adapters fit the gateway concept
well. I think adapters that produce the 3 main data apis in OpenSocial
should be created and maybe backed by something simple like the
filesystem or an embedded db.

davep

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Brian W. Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  I think it is a great thing to do, I just want to caution against "A group
>  >  of us at Google have decided..." as the perception that someone has to be 
> a)
>  >  at google, and b) in the right conversation to make these decisions will
>  >  push away external contributors. Is frustrating at times, but when, in
>  >  situations like shindig, a project is being dominated by folks at one
>  >  company it matters.
>  >
>  >  The best rule of thumb I know is to never make decisions offline or via a
>  >  backchannel. The phrase "a group of us at $VENDOR decided" just sets off
>  >  alarm bells in apache-land.
>
>  I'd like to clarify a few things:
>
>  David and his "group" are not affiliated in any way with Google's
>  engineers contributing to Shindig.  They're a completely separate
>  group of developers who hadn't spoken with myself or any of the other
>  folks contributing to Shindig before posting to the list.
>
>  Leading in with "A group of us at Google have decided" was a
>  mistake--it *did* give a totally wrong impression.  Saying "Some
>  friends and I have decided to implement FOO using Abdera." would have
>  been much more appropriate.
>
>  So I don't think there's a problem here--just a misunderstanding.  The
>  folks at Google who are contributing to Shindig understand the
>  importance of discussing and deciding Shindig related matters on
>  shindig-dev.
>
>  -Fitz
>

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