On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Vasudeva Nori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Christian Schalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello shindig-dev,
> > > >
> > > > It seems like a lot of the questions on shindig-dev are around how
> to
> > > wire
> > > > the OpenSocal API to a real backend. Given that, I'm in the process
> of
> > > > putting together a guide on how to attach your local version of
> > Shindig
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > native datasource.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't understand meaning of "wiring to a native datasource" here.
> > > do you mean
> > >
> > >   - how does one connect Shindig to some data source (like database)
> > >   that is local to wherever Shindig is running in?
> > >
> > > If so, I don't think there is any magic to it at all.
> > > Shindig is a java application that could be hosted on any Java
> > application
> > > server such as JBoss, WebSphere etc using frameworks such Spring
> (i.e.,
> > > not
> > > just on servlet container such as Jetty, Tomcat).
> > > Java Application Servers have dealt with this problem of connecting to
> > any
> > > datasource - be it a database or file system or another application or
> > > just
> > > about anything else.
> > >
> > > Right now, I don't see anything in Shindig that precludes me from
> > hosting
> > > it
> > > on a Java App Server. Or, just add JDBC connectivity to talk to my
> > > database.
> > >
> > > As long as Shindig can play nicely with Java Application Servers,
> > Servlet
> > > Containers or any Java Framework, Shindig doesn't HAVE to worry about
> > such
> > > details at all.
> >
>
> While Shindig doesn't have to worry about it, I imagine documentation
> would
> be useful for folks looking to implement and get running in production.
>
that makes sense.
plus, I forgot all about php.

in that case, would be nice to include documentation on how to get it hosted
on JBoss/WebSphere/WebLogic etc and what to watch out for. I am planning on
doing this. I will contribute as soon as I have the details. I imagine
others on this mailing list may already have done that.


> Thanks for taking the lead on this, Chris!
>
> -Dan
>
>
> >
> > This is true for people using Shindig Java server in an existing Java
> > environment, but it's not true for people who want to deploy Shindig in
> a
> > non-Java (and non-PHP) environment. Right now the only answers we have
> for
> > these people are:
> >
> > - Port Shindig to your language of choice
> >
> > or
> >
> > - Use Java or PHP
> >
> > The answer we want is:
> >
> > - Wire up some RPC calls (in a config file) to your back end and respond
> > to
> > those calls appropriately.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's a draft set of items that I'm planning to cover in the guide:
> > > >
> > > > Basics
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   1. Quick review on how to install Shindig on your server.
> > > >      - Testing some simple (non-OpenSocial) Gadgets on your server.
> > > >      2. Testing an OpenSocial app within your Shindig environment
> > > >      - Trying out the SampleContainer.
> > > >      - Trying out some other simple OpenSocial apps with the
> > > >      SampleContainer
> > > >      - Playing around with simple XML based state data within the
> > > >      SampleContainer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Intermediate-Advanced
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   1. State Data access concepts
> > > >   - Reviewing concepts on how to access data
> > > >         - The all Java approach - implementing interfaces
> > > >         - The RPC approach - creating http based response
> > > >         mechanisms
> > > >      2. Building your own data access using either
> > > >      - Java approach
> > > >         - Getting familiar with the classes and interfaces in
> > > >         org.apache.shindig.social.*.
> > > >         - Implement the provided interfaces to access custom data.
> > > >         - Language neutral RPC approach
> > > >         - How to build your own http mechanism in PHP to serve
> > > >         social data
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if you any suggestions or additions, and we'll continue
> to
> > > > flesh
> > > > this out and publish it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Schalk, Google Developer Advocate
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Kevin
> >
>

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