On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I did the ehcache impl in SHINDIG-279 about 2 weeks back, but there are
> some other requirements that have come in that this doesn't take into
> account, like variable cache timeout on an payload by payload basis (from
> the headers of the httpresponse on the remote server). However, that should
> be easy enough to add (happy to do it if there is demand).
>
> There is also a Apache JCS cache implementation, which requires that the
> key and payload are serializable. For some reason which I haven't worked out
> yet they serialization tests pass on the objects, but the cache unit tests
> fail with JCS.... so that patch isn't working (yet, lack of time not tech
> barrier IMHO). For Obvious reasons, Apache JCS would be the better solution.
>
> One other cache worth thinking about is memcache. I believe there is a JNI
> binding to this, and although it takes non Java setup to make it work, its
> widely used. Apparently Memcached will be part of the Google App engine....
> which I though I heard form someone would run java apps in the future? (or
> was that just a sensible suggestion)


I can't comment on the app engine parts, but there are several
implementations of memcached clients for Java. Some are native java, some
are JNI.

Paul has some experience with this -- care to share?


>
> So you can use ehcache now and configure one of its cluster wide
> invalidation transports (not much sense in replicating ?), of JCS once its
> fixed or something else.
>
> But Kevin should comment on the requirements as I don't think caching is
> finished ?
>
>
>
> HTH
> Ian
>
>
> If you want the patch updating, let me know I have a local git branch of it
> so its relatively easy.
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2008, at 16:37, Marijn Speelman wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I've got a couple of questions related to gadget caching in Shindig
>> (Java).
>>
>> - Caching of rendered gadgets
>> I've been looking through the code and as far as I can see only the
>> Gadget specs (external XML files) are cached, in memory. Is this
>> observation correct? If so, wouldn't it make sense, performance wise, to
>> cache the rendered gadgets as well? I have no data on the performance of
>> the Gadget rendering (XML -> HTML+JS), but it would probably be best to
>> cache as close to the presentation of the gadget as possible.
>>
>> - Distributed cache
>> We're going to run Shindig on multiple (10+) servers to share the load.
>> At the moment Shindig only caches per instance on each server, so for
>> these kind of distributed setups it would be nice to have a distributed
>> caching system buldin. I'm planning to implement a Memcached backend for
>> this (because we already have a large memcached pool), but I was
>> wondering if anyone else is already doing the same or working on
>> something similar. I'm also curious about the progress on these two
>> tickets:
>>  * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-173
>>  * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-279 (although this is
>> related to an ehcache implementation, it could be useful).
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Marijn Speelman
>>
>>
>

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