On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My experience with pear is that it can work great, but on the other hand
> the distribution system is not always fully functional on all comp's php
> runs on, or outdated, or simply unknown by the admins.. even more
> challenging when the user only has ftp access or something to the host he's
> deploying on :)
>
> Such troubles in the past have kind of taught me to avoid it where i could


Fair enough. Might I suggest keeping any third-party dependencies in a
dedicated directory so that nobody attempts to directly rely on them?
Something like trunk/php/external/<Package>. The last thing you'll want is
to have your hands tied on updating a library because somebody depended on
it directly


>
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Ropu wrote:
>
>  hmmm, i think for the same reason we have a subset of Zend
>>
>> to have less dependencies.
>>
>>
>> ropu
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Actually -- is this available in PEAR? If so, why not just mention
>>> grabbing
>>> it from there?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I only mean for the distributable (probably a tar ball file for PHP),
>>>>
>>> once
>>>
>>>> we get to releases.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather live with large downloads than live without tests.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  As far as i know it is pretty much the only option ... well we could
>>>>> add
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>
>>>> readme saying 'download this, unpack it there, run these commands to
>>>>> integrate it; And then you can test" but that would probably really
>>>>> take
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> spontaneity out of testing wouldn't it.. but it is an option i guess.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is importing all of PHPUnit really the only viable option? We'll
>>>>>
>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>> want to make sure that any releases of the PHP code in the future have
>>>>>>
>>>>> an
>>>
>>>> option of only downloading the source and not phpunit -- that's a lot
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>
>>>> code!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Still catching up with patches and filing bugs for the open to-do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> items...
>>>>>>> In doing so the list got a bit flooded as I'm making my way through
>>>>>>> this, my
>>>>>>> apologies!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -- Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> .-. --- .--. ..-
>> R o p u
>>
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