Chris, If you want to give this kind of reply, send it to him in a personal mail, not on the list.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Neo, > > To be honest we have strayed from the 'shindig development' into 'general > software engineering concepts" a long time ago. While i am always happy to > help people out, it's starting to go to the general support side a bit to > much, and this is after all the 'shindig development list', so i would like > to try to keep things on topic a bit here; We've spammed the list more then > enough already. > > If you have problems with jQuery, they have some wonderful forums and > mailing lists of their own.. The same goes for gadget development (this is > about shindig, the rendering server .. and not about gadget development), > there are a lot of resources on the various container's sites (hi5, myspace, > imeem, etc), and howto's (check the various gadget/opensocial/orkut/etc > blogs). They might be a better resource and more fitting for these kinds of > questions. > > Next to that, as a general rule of thumb when your asking questions on a > mailing list or forum, it creates good karma when you show that you have > tried things, read the documentation, and tried to find things out your self > in general .. If an example about orkut fails, but you did nothing to try to > configure your local java shindig server to have ssl keys, then of course it > is going to fail ... just posting that fact won't make people jump to help > you. If however you showed what readme's you read, what mailing list > archives and source code you went through and generally made an effort, then > people will most likely feel much more inclined to help (after all why > should they put in an effort when you obviously don't want too?) > > Sorry if i sound harsh saying these things, but i thought an honest answer > would help you more then just silence. > > -- Chris > > > On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Neo Anderson wrote: > > All my pages are of PHP and they need SESSION values for any transaction. >> If >> I use oAuth, can I create a session there and use it? Or any other way? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hey Neo, >>> >>> Welcome to the world of gadget development :-) There's a lot of resources >>> and examples out there of how to write this, they might give you a bit of >>> a >>> better overview of how to develop gadgets in the open social kind of way. >>> >>> Normally speaking gadget writers don't have access to either the >>> container, >>> nor the shindig server, so their server is on a 3rd domain ... >>> >>> Now Sessions are especially bad since the same gadget can be on different >>> persons pages, one for me == viewer == owner, but also on your friend's >>> page >>> (same gadget, same browser, same session cookie... however a different >>> gadget with different info.. woops!) Next to that huge problem, the proxy >>> server also cache's information (use the REFRESH_INTERVAL param for >>> makeRequest to control for how long btw), and dynamic sessions + caching >>> proxies = bad :) (and yes you really want to have caching, since it >>> saves >>> your behind when you just made a popular app on orkut, myspace and hi5 >>> and >>> your servers would crumble if you served all the page hits all by your >>> self). So thats 2 very big reasons not to use sessions in this context. >>> >>> So what you would do is that if you need specific information, in the >>> social setting this will be related to the Viewer ID, or the Owner ID, >>> and >>> those can be provided in a secure, verified fashion by making signed >>> requests.. >>> >>> There's a how-to-do-this from the gadget point of view at: >>> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/wiki/OrkutValidatingSignedRequests >>> >>> And for creating certificates on php shindig's side read: >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/trunk/php/certs/README >>> >>> After you follow those steps, the public certificate for your shindig >>> server is available at http://<your.shindig>/public.crt which you can >>> then >>> use in the client side to validate the requests, and verify the owner and >>> viewer id ... and all your logic you kind of hang of of those id's >>> >>> >>> On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Neo Anderson wrote: >>> >>> Chris, I got another problem here. >>> >>>> >>>> Problem is my container is at port 80. Server is at port 8080. Here, I >>>> am >>>> able to send Ajax requests from the XML file(gadget) to files at port >>>> 80(container) without any problems. The files on port 80 are (PHP files) >>>> using sessions and based on these sessions. But the problem is as the >>>> makeRequest uses proxy, request to that server page goes from port 8080 >>>> and >>>> session is created for localhost:80, so session doesn't exist for >>>> localhost:8080. How can I solve this problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Neo Anderson < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, Thank you. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> try: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <?php >>>>>> echo json_encode($_REQUEST); >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> i think that will fix a lot of your problems right there :P >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Neo Anderson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <?php >>>>>> >>>>>> json_encode($_REQUEST); >>>>>>> ?> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am getting response as below: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> throw 1; < don't be evil' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> {"http://localhost/makeRequestTest.php":{"body":"\r\n","rc":200}} >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
