it could be added that some people would argue that the try/catch isn't the
cleanest way to check if the domains are the same, but instead should do a
compare on protocol / host, however as John wrote the bug is now non-fatal,
so not blocking any more!

In my test scenario firebug was showing the exception, and adblock was
crashing on it (don't ask, i have no clue why), which lead me to believe it
was a general fatal bug (though of course that extension is used quite a bit
in the wild, so worth keeping this bug in mind).

In short: RC is go!

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It depends.
>
> We discovered that the brokenness was the result of the AdBlock extension
> that Chris had installed. This was orthogonal to the Firebug output.
>
> The Firebug output is annoying, but innocuous: it doesn't break anything. I
> argue, based on my current understanding, that the bug here is in Firebug.
> It shouldn't report a properly caught exception. But the opposing view is
> that Firebug is popular enough that this annoying output is disconcerting,
> so we need to change our implementation (to a parent-param-based approach)
> to obviate the issue altogether. I find this highly unsatisfying (since
> Firebug reportedly does this in lots of other random situations), but I
> understand the argument.
>
> Viz. Shindig's functionality, however, there's no breakage, and Chris is
> freed up.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > *Chris, John,*
> > *What's the next step here? How can we close out this bug to push forward
> > with the rc?*
> >
> > *-Dan
> > *
> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Aha - so this is Firebug reporting a caught exception that is
> > > nevertheless functionally innocuous.
> > >
> > > This error in general shows up in various places, such as implicating
> > > Flash:
> > > http://willperone.net/Code/as3error.php
> > >
> > > In this case, perhaps Flash is invoking adjustHeight, the context of
> > which
> > > call causes Firebug (for reasons I don't deeply understand right now)
> to
> > > catch and report the exception rather than (arguably, appropriately)
> fall
> > > through.
> > >
> > > --John
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm dubious.
> > > > I tested this on several browsers - including FF3, though not the
> > latest
> > > > patch release - and it worked fine, and has been working fine for the
> > > past
> > > > several months. This change was submitted on July 17, and is in the
> > line
> > > of
> > > > fire of every gadgets.rpc call on every browser (as Chris noted, it's
> > > right
> > > > there in call()). I have to believe that someone would have reported
> > this
> > > > earlier if it were fundamentally broken. Plus, it's unclear to me why
> > > origin
> > > > exceptions would be uncatchable - do you have any documentation on
> > this?
> > > >
> > > > There are also some obvious issues with this backtrace being directly
> > > > implicated:
> > > > A) It has nothing to do with a Location object.
> > > > B) It's an assignment, not a function call.
> > > > C) Even if it were a function call, it has nothing to do with
> > .toString,
> > > > unless there are some really funky FF3 internals going on here.
> > > > D) rpc.js hasn't changed at all recently.
> > > >
> > > > I just whipped up (sadly, on an internal-only setup) a test of this
> > > > technique in isolation and successfully tested it on FF2, FF3,
> Chrome,
> > > IE6,
> > > > IE8b2, Opera9, and Safari, all of which worked fine (caught the
> > > exception,
> > > > fell through without dying). The only difference between browsers is
> > that
> > > > Safari/Chrome don't execute code in the catch-block.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose it's possible that a different emitted header of some kind
> > > could
> > > > switch the JS runtime into "can't catch origin exceptions" mode, but
> > even
> > > > that seems unclear to me. This very same error has been reported
> > before,
> > > and
> > > > has always gone away for other reasons. I can't remember what those
> > were
> > > > though -- researching...
> > > >
> > > > --John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> what happens is that call() (rpc.js) does:
> > > >>
> > > >>      // If target is on the same domain, call method directly
> > > >>      if (callSameDomain(targetId, rpc)) {
> > > >>        return;
> > > >>      }
> > > >>
> > > >> which does:
> > > >>      try {
> > > >>         // If this succeeds, then same-domain policy applied
> > > >>         sameDomain[target] = targetEl.gadgets.rpc.receiveSameDomain;
> > > >>       } catch (e) {
> > > >>        // Usual case: different domains
> > > >>      }
> > > >>
> > > >> .. which isn't a catchable error, but instead should have the full
> > > compare
> > > >> of host/port/protocol between the parent param and the url that
> kevin
> > > >> mentions and only if they match callSameDomain..
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > The same domain check here is clearly broken and wrong. You can't
> > > catch
> > > >> a
> > > >> > same origin policy violation on most browsers.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The only way to legitimately check that it's the same origin
> ("same
> > > >> > domain")
> > > >> > is to require that the host, port, and protocol of the parent
> > > parameter
> > > >> > match that of the current domain, and then just assume that it's
> ok
> > to
> > > >> fail
> > > >> > if the parent page is lying about its own value.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hey guys, I *thought* I was all ready to go for a 1.0.0 release,
> > > every
> > > >> > > little (but important) bug I knew of was fixed, but at the last
> > > moment
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > svn
> > > >> > > update broke something in (what seems to be) the RPC code.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > This bit of code:
> > > >> > > 9098 function callSameDomain(target, rpc) { 9090 if (typeof
> > > >> > > sameDomain[target] === 'undefined') {
> > > >> > > 9091 // Seed with a negative, typed value to avoid
> > > >> > > 9092 // hitting this code path repeatedly
> > > >> > > 9093 sameDomain[target] = false;
> > > >> > > 9094 var targetEl = null;
> > > >> > > 9095 if (target === '..') {
> > > >> > > 9096 targetEl = parent;
> > > >> > > 9097 } else {
> > > >> > > 9098 targetEl = frames[target];
> > > >> > > 9099 }
> > > >> > > 9100 try {
> > > >> > > 9101 // If this succeeds, then same-domain policy applied
> > > >> > > 9102 sameDomain[target] =
> targetEl.gadgets.rpc.receiveSameDomain;
> > > >> > > 9103 } catch (e) {
> > > >> > > 9104 // Usual case: different domains
> > > >> > > 9105 }
> > > >> > > 9106 }
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > (sorry for the firebug line # spam) causes the following error
> in
> > > FF3:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Permission denied to call method Location.toString
> > > >> > > callSameDomain()ifr?synd...375419175 (line 9102)
> > > >> > > call()()ifr?synd...375419175 (line 9248)
> > > >> > > adjustHeight()()ifr?synd...375419175 (line 9502)
> > > >> > > onLoadedData(Object responseItems_=Object
> > > >> > > globalError_=false)ifr?synd...375419175
> > > >> > > (line 10912)
> > > >> > > sendResponse()(Object 0=Object 1=Object 2=Object 3=Object
> 4=Object
> > > >> > > 5=Object)ifr?synd...375419175
> > > >> > > (line 7521)
> > > >> > > processNonProxiedResponse("
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://shindig/social/rpc?st=UXpWVHZ0TTElMkJQbk9MQjJFWXU1cEJmSjVuU1dHaGZQZ21mdVVWUktCY0xwZldYeWNVaXhpS0p4MGF3Qlpmemx3enRqQUJoUDlGTDBaejlwd0JIJTJGaWhWcGklMkJKOGd2RVdHWjdHZjVtc1BkRUF0Wmo3Z1VLNXZHc1RvcTBRd2pLSzhxYU0zb3F1S2plVGxBSzQ0ckE5ekdSZXVIdHF4TUo2RjUlMkJJRFdldlV6MjJHN2ZUQklCR29ubmFBcng4RDNKMFBNU2MwSFElM0QlM0Q%3D
> > > >> > > ", function(), Object CONTENT_TYPE=JSON METHOD=POST
> > > >> AUTHORIZATION=SIGNED,
> > > >> > > XMLHttpRequest)ifr?synd...375419175 (line 1603)
> > > >> > > (?)()()ifr?synd...375419175 (line 411)
> > > >> > > sameDomain[target] = targetEl.gadgets.rpc.receiveSameDomain;
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > In safari and chrome (and presumably IE) this is working fine,
> so
> > > it's
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > FF3
> > > >> > > specific issue as far as i've been able to test.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The problem is that this is breaking every major gadget that I
> can
> > > >> test
> > > >> > ...
> > > >> > > so a 'blocker' is not an understatement here.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Unfortunately my knowledge of the RPC JS code is to limited to
> be
> > > able
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > say anything sensible about this, so I'm hoping someone with
> more
> > of
> > > a
> > > >> > clue
> > > >> > > will be able to guess what's going on here!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The problem is easily reproducible on:
> > > >> > > http://www.partuza.nl/profile/application/1/833/2992
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm not a 100% sure on what changed, but all I can offer is "It
> > used
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > work" :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >   -- Chris
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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