Ok sorry for all... I am giving up herre.

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Hugh Sasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Jean Lazarou wrote:
>
>  That's what I thought, but then I must change the code I want to run (see
>> highlighted code)
>>
>
> This is a mailing list.  The text appears as plain text for many
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> You should not be sending HTML to a mailing list, if you are
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>>  Shoes.app :height => 260, :width => 250 do
>>    animate(1) do
>>      @time = Time.now
>>      clear do
>>        $app.draw_background
>>        stack do
>>          puts "Time = [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>>        end
>>      end
>>    end
>>    def draw_background
>>    end
>>  end
>>
>> And would ideally like not change that code...
>>
>
> You already have.  You redefined Shoes.app so it calls the block
> after not doing any setup, and so it does nothing with the result:
>
>  >       13 class Shoes
>> >       14
>> >       15    def self.app params
>> >       16      yield
>> >       17    end
>> >       18
>> >
>>
>
> That changes the meaning of Shoes.app.
>
>  Am I right?
>>
>
> I don't know what you are expecting to happen, and why what you are
> getting doesn't make sense to you.  Computer programming actually
> relies heavily on the scientific method: "What did you expect, what
> did you do to test that, what result did you get, and what did you
> conclude from that?."  That's 4 possible places for there to be a
> problem.  Your initial expectation may be wrong. You could do the
> wrong experiment. You may incorrectly observe (and report) the
> result.  You may draw the wrong conclusion from it.  This sort of
> thing happens all the time.  That is why science has a peer review
> process.
>
>
>> -Jean
>>
>
>        Hugh
>
>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Ernest Prabhakar
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>      Hi Jean,
>>      On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jean Lazarou wrote:
>>
>>      Hi Ernest,
>>
>>      Where does the '$app' come from?
>>
>>
>> That's just a global that you initialize from *inside* the
>> 'Shoes.app' section of your code, so you can refer to it elsewhere.
>>
>> Look at some of the examples, like tankspank.
>>
>> -enp
>>
>>
>>
>>      -Jean
>>
>>
>>      On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Ernest Prabhakar
>>      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>            Hi Jean,
>>
>>            You may want to try the:
>>
>>                  $app = self
>>                  $app.draw_background
>>
>>
>>            trick....
>>
>>            -enp
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Jean Lazarou wrote:
>>
>>      Thank you all for answering, but if I go
>>      for simplicity nothing works...
>>
>>      34 Shoes.app :height => 260, :width => 250
>>      do
>>      35   animate(1) do
>>      36     @time = Time.now
>>      37     clear do
>>      38       draw_background
>>      39       stack do
>>      40         puts "Time = [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>>      41       end
>>      42     end
>>      43   end
>>      44   def draw_background
>>      45     puts "draw_background"
>>      46   end
>>      47 end
>>
>>      If I define a Shoes class as following and
>>      some methods (like animate):
>>
>>      13 class Shoes
>>      14
>>      15    def self.app params
>>      16      yield
>>      17    end
>>      18
>>      19
>>      20 end
>>      21
>>      22  def animate fps, &block
>>      23    yield
>>      24  end
>>      25
>>      26  def clear
>>      27    yield
>>      28  end
>>      29
>>      30  def stack
>>      31    yield
>>      32  end
>>
>>      I get
>>
>>      test.rb:38: undefined local variable or
>>      method `draw_background' for
>>      #<Object:0x288fa34 @time=Wed Aug 20
>>      19:56:46 +0200 2008> (NameError)
>>         from test.rb:27:in `clear'
>>
>>      I don't find any easy way to make the code
>>      run. Of course, if I comment the call to
>>      `draw_background' (line 38) I get the
>>      output => Time = Wed Aug 20 20:03:22 +0200
>>      2008
>>
>>      (I run the code with the C-Ruby runtime)
>>
>>      Is there some Ruby technical I don't know?
>>
>>      Jean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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