You are absolutely right. The first idea is a good one. But a problem with the second one: that would only really work on Mac OS X, and, in fact, it already is. But I do agree that it should be in the docs somewhere that you can <alt-/>
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Hugh Sasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a couple of difficulties for people who try to use Shoes > with the knowledge that it is Ruby based. The first is that for > "What is going on?" type diagnostics, they are likely to use puts. > Many ruby examples do just that. The trouble with that is that in > shoes the output doesn't go anywhere. I'd suggest that it should go > to the errors console if there is no tty, or maybe regardless of > whether there is a tty because people forget conditionals. > > The second problem is the errors console is pretty secretive. > "Shoes: sneaking a console through the system" to paraphrase a much > missed blog :-) If you know <alt-/> all is well (unless your > keyboard code eats those, as mine does in one program I was playing > with). My suggestion is that it should be put into the Window menu, > where people will be likely to discover it. This fits in with > Donald Norman's design principles about putting knowledge in the > world where people will look for it. > > I don't know how easy these things are to achieve, though, as I > don't do much cross platform GUI stuff. > > Hugh >
