John Haltiwanger wrote:


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM, doki_pen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    doki_pen wrote:

        John Haltiwanger wrote:

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            If someone wants to get to know their computer, there is
            always Arch. Or Gentoo, if they ever get their overlay
            issues worked out. (Or slack or,... n+1). Arch is the best
            of option out there right now for a second (or third or
            fourth) distro, but Ubuntu is easily the best 'first
            distro' around, in my experience.

        And what, prey tell, is the overlay issue?

    lol, I really need some coffee.. My grammar really isn't _that_ bad.



Not sure if you are still wondering, but my experience most recent experience with Gentoo (March 09) has been a mess of overlays, something that was never an issue before. To get an even halfway recent ebuild for an app I had to jump through a bunch of overlay hoops, with each overlay potentially adding incompatabilities. The net effect is that the main portage tree felt stagnant. When I used Gentoo as the deployment Linux when I administered a computer lab in 2006, I never even heard mention of an overlay. Now it seems that adding an overlay is the first step mentioned in installing apps in Gentoo.
That's no good. I don't find the need to use overlays very often. What I like about gentoo is that (like Arch) creating packaging scripts is dead simple. I have my own overlay for stuff I need more up-to-date then what gentoo provides. But it's very rare. Usually unmasking things is enough for me. Only code that I actually work on has to be tip. I guess it really depends on what you are doing though, for a dev box, I love it.

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