> Hey Cecil, > > Thank you! The hack you suggested worked I now have a dmg file which > includes the 10mb ffmpeg file.
great! Assuming that _why doesn't read all messages in all threads, how can we make sure this fix gets put into the source ... is it all about github? Does someone have an account on github that they can push this through? Etienne > Yes, ffmpeg wrappers are a major pain with all the targets. The biggest pain > though is the licensing problem for encoders - I am still sorting out the > legal implications of distributing aac and h264 encoders. So far it looks > murky and not encouraging. ffmpegX gets around this by having you download > ffmpeg from some other site and can't legally automate this process. I think > that removes the simplicity that I want to deliver to the user. Blech, I > hate licensing quagmires! > > I just built a quick shoes prototype of a 1 click transcoder. If the the > legal stuff doesn't get in the way, the idea is to have a batch encoder with > a configurable yaml file with ffmpeg parameters. It will upload files to a > website once the transcoding is done. The idea being that it does the > conversion locally to one or several formats and can post the files to a > designated web service. This is instead of requiring the user to upload > gigabytes of data and it eliminates (or reduces) the need for a transcoding > farm. I think it would be benificial for lots of small sites that require > transcoding for their initial content, although it's usefulness peters out > after you change your mind about what formats you need. > > Anyway... I'll stop there since it's not really that super shoes related. > > If you want to chat more about the ffmpeg stuff email me. > > Best, > Noah > > On May 22, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Cecil Coupe wrote: > >> It's difficult meta problem. I'm on Linux (Ubuntu 9.04) and I'd like a >> little shoes app that front ends ffmpeg. Except.... it has to front end >> the ffmpeg I have, not the one someone thinks I need. Cross platform >> reaching out to system installed dynamic libraries from inside Shoes is >> a problem I shudder to think about. Mostly, Shoes won't. Hint's are in >> the installer code. For good reasons it maybe shouldn't. Bundling your >> own ffmpeg is also a big problem if you cover all the architectures, >> that's no fun either. >> >> ffmepgX was (is) an awesome GUI wrapper. I still miss it on Linux. A >> Shoes version would be a fine achievement. Keep me (or the list) >> informed. >> >> --Cecil >> >> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:37 -0700, Noah Thorp wrote: >>> >>> Cecil. Thanks for the lead I will have a look at that! I agree with >>> you that I would prefer to find the bug rather than downloading files >>> - seem cleaner. I will have a look and see how it goes. It might lead >>> me to automating other aspects of the build process as well once I see >>> how the packaging works. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Noah >>> >>> On May 22, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Cecil Coupe wrote: >>> >>>> I hate to follow up my own message but >>>> >>>> pack.rb line 156 (my older version of shoes) has this line of ruby >>>> dmg.grow(10) >>>> >>>> That seems like an arbitrary number that some folks have reported. I >>>> don't know what dmg.grow() does, but a hacker might up that to 30 or >>>> 40 >>>> and see what happens. Or one could read the docs for binject. Where >>>> that >>>> pack.rb is on your system and which copy of shoes you are using if you >>>> have multiples... >>>> >>>> Just something to look at. >>>> --Cecil >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:00 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It might be easier to debug and fix the problem than implement a >>>>> workaround, IMHO. It looks like most of the action starts in >>>>> lib/shoes/pack.rb - I don't have an OS X box anymore so I can't be >>>>> very >>>>> helpful. Might be an easy fix if you can find all the parts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:24 -0500, Roy Wright wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe as a work around, implement a download and install ffmpeg as >>>>>> needed instead of including the binary in the package? Similar to >>>>>> how a >>>>>> shoes app can download and install shoes... >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Roy >>>>>> >>>>>> Noah Thorp wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the encouragement. I have plans to post the open source >>>>>>> transcoder (ffmpeg wrapper) once it had reaches a certain level >>>>>>> of alpha >>>>>>> maturity. It's a very simple but useful app. I could post it to >>>>>>> github >>>>>>> early if it would help troubleshooting. But, it seems like it may >>>>>>> be an >>>>>>> issue simply with including large files in an OS X package. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Noah >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 22, 2009, at 5:31 PM, e deleflie wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Noah, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dont think you are falling outside of the use case it was >>>>>>>> intended >>>>>>>> for ... I think its just a bug. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dont have a work-around for you .... (maybe someone else >>>>>>>> does) ... >>>>>>>> but if we shout loud enough .... _why might hear our plea to >>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>> look at this bug. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it looks like large binaries (5 to 10MB and up?) included in a >>>>>>>> folder and packaged up, for OSX, cause the packager to crash. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
