Dave, Charlie, et al:
The USGA has been working on a "field test" for COR for more than a year
because they do want to be able to show up and do spot testing, or even
total tournament field testing in this area.  And when that happens it
is going to be really interesting because most of you guys know how
sensitive COR testing can be, as well as how little of a change in one
woodhead vs another can make a significant change in the COR.  Some
weeks back I went through this on one of my new models - the two
foundries I will only use for making my Ti woodheads both have the same
exact COR testing machinery and perform the test the same way as
described and provided by the USGA.  This one sample I sent in came to
me from our foundry with test data report sheets that said it had a COR
of 0.826.  I sent it on to the USGA and weeks later they came back and
said that it failed the COR test because it was an 0.836.  Yet one of
the other drivers I sent in came out of the same foundry's COR testing
at 0.823 and I got a letter back on this one saying it was conforming.
Trying to track down the variables in such a matter is virtually
impossible in terms of the time and expense required because there can
be so many that all added together could explain the difference when you
are trying to get within 0.001 COR points.  

So who's right?  Well because they make the rules, the public would say
the USGA is right.  But I also know the technical acumen of my foundry
guys too, and they are pretty serious and smart too in these areas.  So
what they force me to do is to make another head that I test at our
foundry and see that it comes in at 0.819 or less so that I can get this
ONE head they require under the USGA test.  I know my intent is not to
make a non-conforming head, but the USGA doesn't.  They are aware that
there are companies in the business who "specially make" the one head
that is required for their testing, but then the company orders the
foundry to make the production of all the heads they will sell to be
over the limit.  

And when field testing hits on tour, the media is going to have a field
day with it because undoubtedly there will be drivers found in players'
bags which will be over the limit.  And when the media writes about it
the way you know they will, there will be people who will virtually
accuse those players of "cheating".  Is the field test 100% compatible
with the lab testing?  I seriously doubt it could be, because you guys
who are engineers and tech career people know how hard that would be to
do, week after week.  

Hearing about guys who sand the faces of their drivers is no different
than the stories we have all heard over the years that we just need to
smirk and chuckle about - up there with secretly rubbing the driver face
with chap-stick or pitchers with a rough edge on their belt buckle who
try to scuff the baseball during a game.  

In the case of the COR matter itself that brings about the thought of
golfers with sandpaper in their golf bags, it's not the player who
should be criticized - it's the organization that did not listen to real
science and realize that a COR limit was never needed in the first
place.  I mean heck, look at all the money the USGA could have saved and
donated to junior golf programs if they would have just opened their
minds to look at ALL the data about this.  OK< stick a fork in me. . I'm
done.  

TOM W





-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Face Milling

At 07:21 AM 1/28/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Arnie
>  I have to disagree with you as far as it doesn't due anything. If are

> able to measure ball measure ball velocity before and after the
procedure 
> you will definitely see an increase in ball speed. I forgot what the 
> distance increase is per 1 mph increase but to tour pros every yard of

> carry is significant. Face thickness can be measured but the equipment

> costs a couple of thousand dollars. A friend of mine has it and I have

> been doing it for a few years. As far as being legal you have to
maintain 
> the .83 COR.
>
>  Charlie

My problem with all this is Charlie's last point about being legal. Face

grinding attacks the whole structure of golf club conformance
enforcement.

Golf club conformance is based on "type testing". The USGA (and
tournament 
staffs) do not test every club at every [important] event. They test a 
small sample (probably a sample of one) of the model from the
manufacturer. 
This is based on an assumption that modifying the head is difficult to
do, 
and especially difficult to do undetectably.

If people start modifying the COR of the clubheads with milling machines
or 
grinders, then the whole notion of type testing goes out the window.
Clubs 
will have to be measured at every significant tournament. And, as
Charlie 
notes, it is expensive to measure face thickness. Moreover, there isn't
a 
simple mathematical relationship between face thickness and COR. So the 
USGA and the PGA tour may have to carry around an air cannon to their 
events and measure COR directly every time.

This is not an idea I'm inventing on the fly. When I raced sailboats, I
was 
also a fleet measurer in the Albacore class (15-foot planing sloop), was
on 
the specifications committee, and was on the national championship 
measuring staff a few times. At the national championships, all boats
were 
measured before the regatta, in any dimension that was:
  * Changeable from the original type test. (The hull molds were
approved 
by the class before Albacores could be manufactured from them, so
overall 
size and shape of hull was OK by type testing. That was all that was
type 
tested.)
  * Affected performance.
For lesser regattas than the nationals, there were spot check
measurements 
for one or two dimensions on all boats.

Things that were checked included position of the centerboard pivot, ALL

controlling dimensions of sails, overall weight of the boat, critical 
dimensions of spars (mast and boom), and a few other dimensions. We
often 
found transgressions that had to be corrected before you could race. If
you 
arrived a day early for measuring, you had a chance to fix things up. If

you showed up the morning of the race with an outaspec boat, you were
SOL. 
(Well, the technical term is DSQ, but SOL is so much more colorful.)

I'd hate to see this happen to golf. But I see two trends pushing in
that 
direction:

(1) Milling the head to increase COR. This is just begging for a rule to

disallow clubs that show visible tampering. Mill or sand the face so it 
looks different from the head as manufactured, and the club is 
automatically illegal. (In the days of wooden heads, I'd scream bloody 
murder about such a rule; I modified clubfaces all the time. BUT... such

mods did not affect the COR, or any other rule-based item.)

(2) The USGA is about to bring one on itself: the overall length rule.
This 
is something that EVERYBODY changes. If you put a rule on it, you will
HAVE 
TO measure every club at every tournament for conformance.

Yecchh!
DaveT


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