Hi John and Jents
No I didn't but I did.  Thanks for the correction > should be 90 deg.
My first mistake of the year.  Come to think of it:
"I thought I made a mistake once, then realized I was mistaken"
Thanks for correcting my "oversight" (which wasn't a "mistake").
Thanks HarryS
www.Golf54.com

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Hi Harry,
Are you sure that's what you intended to say...."Type II .... S and N 180
degrees apart" ? Can't happen.

Cheers,
John K
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From: Harry F. Schiestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:42 PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Re:Spine Finder Plans


> Hi Tom
> Many graphite shafts are Type II in nature, having a S and N plane 180
> degrees apart.
> With a Type II shaft there are 2 S positions and 2 N positions.
> The 2 N positions are called N1 and N2.  N1 (lowest frequency) is then
> referred to as NBP.
> A lot of sheet wrap is Type II shafts and almost all steel shafts are Type
> I.
> Supershafts have a large frequency differential (delta frequency) between
> the S and N plane.
> Thanks HarryS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Corey Bailey
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Re:Spine Finder Plans
>
>
> Tom,
> I'm not sure what plans you downloaded, but I'm assuming that you will be
> able to suspend the shaft from the butt end in a set of bearings
> approximately 5" apart. You will then use a tip weight (generally hung
from
> a third bearing) to bend the shaft somewhat into an arch. Be careful with
> tip weights. However, It takes at least a pound or two to satisfactorily
> place enough tension on the shaft. I say be careful because in my early
> days of experimenting, I used the seven pound weight from my flex board
and
> finally broke a shaft while rotating it in the bearing device. I have used
> a 3lb deep-sea fishing weight ever since with great success.
>
> With the shaft in this bent condition, rotate it slowly a complete turn or
> two. You will find at least one, if not two, areas of the shaft that offer
> resistance to turning. you will also notice that the shaft under load
tends
> to settle in one position. This is generally referred to as the NBP, or
> "Neutral Bend Point", or "Natural Bend Point", or...
> The opposite side of this position (generally, 180 degrees from NBP) is
> referred to as the spine.  When you rotate the shaft to the "spine"
> position, it tends not to stay there and wants to settle back to its
> natural position.
>
> What I have just described is what we "spine finders" refer to as a "type
> one" shaft.
>
> I now (I say "now" because I built my first bearing finder in the
> mid-ninetys) use the simplest of bearing finders that I bought from a
> Clubmaker named Colin Dick and rarely use tip weights anymore unless I'm
> doing specific research. It becomes easy and quick with practice to
> determine the spine properties of any given shaft. On average, it takes me
> less that a minute per shaft.
>
> This is only the tip of the iceberg.
>
> For some further information try:
>
> http://members.shaw.ca/cgdick/
>
> Happy trails,
>
> CB
>
>
> At 09:45 PM 2/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >No offense intended but I guess I asked a stupid question and got a
stupid
> >answer in return.  I deserved that, didn't I?  After downloading the
plans
> the
> >next thing to download was the article named, Spine Finding.  I read it
two
> or
> >three times, maybe for or five, and still have not gotten an answer to my
> >question.  Actually I am beginning to believe that I did get the answer
but
> it
> >was not what the author imagined.  How many players go into a pro shop
and
> buy
> >a set of clubs, spend the next so many years playing, usually scoring
> between
> >120 and 80 strokes per game.  Finding the spine could possibly the
greatest
> >sales gimmick in the market place.  I doubt there are 1 in 1000 golfers
> that
> >even know the stiffness of their driver shaft must less whether of not it
> had
> >or didn't have a spine.
> >
> >In other words it is not that important to the average player caught up
in
> the
> >process of trying to break 100.
> >
> >I'll build the thing anyway.  Just think of the looks and comments I will
> get
> >when I tell a customer those tools date back to the early days of golf.
> >
> >Have a great evening everyone!
> >
> >Tom M
>
>
>


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