> The pictures where the wrists are cocked show the back of the left hand to > the camera. Between 009 and 010, the hands turn so the edge of the left > hand is to the camera. That's a 90* roll in the last fraction of the > downswing before impact. Which is EXACTLY what I was talking about. > > BTW, the only way there could be no roll is if the shaft is twisted 90* at > impact. Sorry, no way. Remember that the clubface is in the swing plane at > the top (and, in good swings, most of the way down) but is perpendicular to > the swing plane at impact.
But his shoulders are also turned 90�, so the only difference in his address position and his at-the-top position is the wrist cock...which is straight up with no rolling of the wrist. In the take-away shot with club about 7 o'clock, his hand position is almost identical with the downsing released club position at 7 o'cloock, so the club is returning on almost a straight plane...but his shoulders have rotated ahead, his hips have rotated ahead, yet the club returns to impact precisely as it left. You are looking at a tilted plane and the club is releasing straight down on plane...sorry, I just don't see the 90� change.
Gotta disagree, Bernie. (Al, thanks for the support.)
It would be POSSIBLE to keep the hands in the same plane through impact, but uncomfortable. It would mean:
* Keeping the back of the left hand perpendicular to the swing plane (where it has been through the first three pictures).
* Keeping the clubface IN THE SWING PLANE (where it has been through the first three pictures).
That last one is the telling point. We KNOW that the clubface goes from being in the swing plane at the start of the downswing to being perpendicular to the swing plane at impact. Are you saying that the shaft is torqued 90* at impact? If not, then the hands have rotated to get it there.
BTW, for purposes of the spine discussion, it really doesn't matter what the hands do. All that matters is that the clubface and most of the shaft (all but a few degrees that may remain torqued) rotates 90* late in the downswing. Unless we disagree about that, it doesn't matter whether we agree that the hands turn.
Cheers! DaveT
