does anyone know where i can find short iron heads for snake eyes tc-01 model?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shoptalk-digest V1 #5051 shoptalk-digest Monday, 15 September 19103 Volume 01 : Number 5051 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Corey Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:25:44 -0700 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: What size town for a clubmaker OK, the cat is out of the bag, I'm an Audio Engineer, not a full time clubmaker. But, Being a part-time clubmaker who services two public courses and until recently stocked the pro shop for one of them, I can offer the following: Golfers show up at golf courses to play golf, not buy clubs. They will however, pick up an occasional club they may need if the price is right. I found that the clubs that sell out of the pro shop are the utility clubs and putters. And more putters. That's about it. The full sets of irons and drivers I sell are by word of mouth. Golfers, when walking into a retail golf shop, are there to look at and talk clubs. I would look for the higher volume foot traffic with convenient parking and then make deals with the local courses. CB AL Taylor wrote: > Second, I would be a bit more positive on the GC location. You also > have something to give a golf course. On course repairs. Of course your > benefits are the fitting and sales of new custom clubs. You may be able > to work a deal such as very low or no rent in exchange for doing the > repairs they drum up at a discount. etc etc. (read, they make a profit > on your repairs) Of course your particular skills will come in to play > also, but heck, talk is cheap and fun. ;-)) Good luck. > >Al > >At 11:19 AM 9/13/2003, you wrote: >>Hello all, >> >>I am a hobbyist clubmaker with about 5 years experience. I am considering >>opening a retail shop. >>My question is, what would any of you say is a rule of thumb for the size of >>a town/city/area needed to support one storefront clubmaking operation? >> >>I have a lot of retail business experience. I sold my retail non-golf >>business and am now in semi-retirement, but I am wishing for more contact >>with customers again. I could probably start another non-golf business and >>just keep my clubmaking as a hobby. But talk is cheap and fun, so .... >> >>I am talking about a retail storefront, not my garage. My midwestern USA >>county is rural but on the expanding fringe of a large metro area. We are >>talking basic midwest, not Myrtle Beach or some other golf mecca. >> >>The total county population is probably, oh, 40,000. There are no >>clubmaking retail shops in the county. If there are any professional >>basement/garage shops, they are unknown to me. My particular town is >>~6,000, and has about 20,000 (including the 6,000) within 15 minutes drive. >>The biggest town in the county has 2 country clubs, about 20 minutes from >>here, and each of those has an in-house club repair guy. I don't gather >>that they get a lot of business from outside their members/golfers. There >>are a few other courses in the area and out to a half-hour away, such as >>munis, daily fee 18's, 9-holers, etc. I don't see any of them doing >>anything significant in clubmaking and repairs. >> >>It is possible, but I don't know how likely, that I could rent a basically >>vacant building of approx. 500 sq feet that is on the grounds of a nice 18 >>hole daily fee course. They don't do much of anything, pro-shop wise. >>There is no club pro to speak of, although one does have an arrangement to >>leave business cards and travels 45 minutes to the course to give lessons by >>appointment. I mean, in the clubhouse, they sell golf balls and caps and >>such, no clubs! >> >>The building I could MAYBE rent, if the owner goes along with it, is right >>by the first tee, practice green, and driving range. I think it served as a >>temporary proshop while the main building was under construction. It's a >>nice little building that looks to be a junk bin right now. :) >> >>If there appears to be any merit to it, I'll have to get more training and >>certification, plus more research on the business end of things. But for >>now: What is your seat-of-the-pants opinion on whether or not this is a big >>enough market to support a one-man retail storefront? Or, does being on the >>18 hole course trump all the other considerations? >> >>Thank you very much, >> >>Doug Clark ------------------------------ From: Jeff Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:41:57 -0400 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> Don,<br> <br> I have TriTecs in my backup set of irons and have sold several sets. SK Fiber are very consistent shafts quality wise. I found them to be a bit on the soft side but customers seem to like that. <br> <br> Jeff<br> Whole-in-One<br> <br> Don Flatgard wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><strong><font face="Arial">Anybody have any experience with SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts?</font></strong></div> <div><strong><font face="Arial">Thinking about changing, </font></strong><strong><font face="Arial">I am using TT Dynalite A flex now.</font></strong></div> <div><strong></strong> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> ------------------------------ From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 06:26:52 -0700 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( STILL a very O.T. rant) - --=====================_259213640==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Forgive me, Corey, I don't get access to people actually in the broadcast business very often. I though the FCC was supposed to have adopted a single standard for HDTV in this country? Is that eminent? Isn't cost always the issue? If it isn't technical implementation cost it's licensing costs. Thanks, Alan Brooks At 10:09 PM 9/14/2003 -0700, you wrote: >The number one problem implementing HDTV is cost. That, plus there are >seventeen actual standards available and no one can agree on any of them >except perhaps CBS & ABC who are broadcasting 1280 X 1024-I. The list of >issues gets long and political. > >CB > >At 04:25 PM 9/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>I would also suggest that the implementation of high-definition TV has >>been slowed due to broadcaster's concerns over the copying of digital >>broadcasts. CBS has even gone so far as to threaten to cancel all HDTV >>productions unless some technical solutions are incorporated into set-top >>boxes for cable and satellite reception. As an HDTV consumer in Canada, >>I get service from ExpressVu. The boxes are made for the Dish network in >>the US, and the latest HDTV satellite receiver has been held up for >>almost two years because it incorporates a hard-drive to record >>broadcasts, much like a VCR. The broadcasting industry has been turning >>every legal screw at their disposal to ensure that either the recorded >>product is at a lessor level of resolution or, as an alternative, cannot >>be downloaded to a PC. I know that this has delayed the introduction of >>the next generation HDTV receiver. >> >>BTW, NFL football has never looked better! ABC does an excellent job on >>Monday nights (and throw in 5.1 sound to boot!) and at least two or three >>of the games broadcast by CBS over the weekend are in HDTV. >> >>Regards, >> >>Ron >> >>Kevil, L H. wrote: >>> >>> >>>As for better arguments and examples, how about the current problems >>>with DVD-Audio and the music industry's attempts to coerce the hardware >>>manufacturers into building outrageous copy-protection schemes into the >>>hardware itself? Or what about the extra cost of blank CD-RW disks vs >>>CR-R's? >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Leo Noordhuizen >>>[<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:49 AM >>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) >>> >>> >>>What is said below about DAT recorders in Europe is complete nonsense. >>>I am from The Netherlands, and have been working a long time for Philips >>>who >>>was (I think) the inventor of the DAT recorder. >>>The DAT recorder has never been a success. Also in Europe I think it is >>>virtually impossible to buy a recorder nowadays. Also the tapes are >>>probably >>>not available any more. (And this situation already exists for quite >>>some >>>years) >>> >>>So while agree-ing that we should be very aware of what our governments >>>do >>>for whatever clear or unclear reason, we should use correct arguments >>>and >>>examples. >>> >>>Regards, Leo Noordhuizen >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Another Happy Linux User" >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:25 AM >>>Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) >>> >>> >>> >>>><rant> One other "small" thing.... How many of you own a Digital Audio >>>>Recorder (DAT)? (most will say "not me") You know why? Because the >>>>"music industry" has convinced the courts, that we would all be >>>>criminals, if we owned one! No crime has been commited, - yet we are >>>>all being punished! *Why!* Because we "might" copy music????? The >>>>"music industry" has "legally?", blocked the manufacturers from making >>>>these devices available. DAT has been a distribution media standard in >>>>Europe, for some time now, - most people there have at least one (DAT >>>>recorder/player), in their home, - and we (in U.S. and Canada), can't >>>>even buy them. (except only, if one owns and/or operates a commercial >>>>recording studio). What's wrong with this picture? Oops..... I forgot, >>>>- we are criminals, - just looking for a crime to commit against the >>>>recordng industry...... </rant> Cheers, Jorgen >>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> - --=====================_259213640==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <body> Forgive me, Corey, I don't get access to people actually in the broadcast business very often. I though the FCC was supposed to have adopted a single standard for HDTV in this country? Is that eminent? Isn't cost always the issue? If it isn't technical implementation cost it's licensing costs.<br><br> Thanks,<br><br> Alan Brooks<br><br> At 10:09 PM 9/14/2003 -0700, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>The number one problem implementin= g HDTV is cost. That, plus there are seventeen actual standards available and no one can agree on any of them except perhaps CBS & ABC who are broadcasting 1280 X 1024-I. The list of issues gets long and political.<br><br> CB <br><br> At 04:25 PM 9/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>I would also suggest that the implementation of high-definition TV has been slowed due to broadcaster's concerns over the copying of digital broadcasts. CBS has even gone so far as to threaten to cancel all HDTV productions unless some technical solutions are incorporated into set-top boxes for cable and satellite reception. As an HDTV consumer in Canada, I get service from ExpressVu. The boxes are made for the Dish network in the US, and the latest HDTV satellite receiver has been held up for almost two years because it incorporates a hard-drive to record broadcasts, much like a VCR. The broadcasting industry has been turning every legal screw at their disposal to ensure that either the recorded product is at a lessor level of resolution or, as an alternative, cannot be downloaded to a PC. I know that this has delayed the introduction of the next generation HDTV receiver.<br><br> BTW, NFL football has never looked better! ABC does an excellent job on Monday nights (and throw in 5.1 sound to boot!) and at least two or three of the games broadcast by CBS over the weekend are in HDTV. <br><br> Regards,<br><br> Ron<br><br> Kevil, L H. wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><br><br> <pre>As for better arguments and examples, how about the current problems with DVD-Audio and the music industry's attempts to coerce the hardware manufacturers into building outrageous copy-protection schemes into the hardware itself? Or what about the extra cost of blank CD-RW disks vs CR-R's?=20 - -----Original Message----- From: Leo Noordhuizen [<a= href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:49 AM To: <a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) What is said below about DAT recorders in Europe is complete nonsense. I am from The Netherlands, and have been working a long time for=20 Philips who was (I think) the inventor of the DAT recorder. The DAT recorder has never been a success. Also in Europe I think it is virtually impossible to buy a recorder nowadays. Also the tapes are probably not available any more. (And this situation already exists for quite some years) So while agree-ing that we should be very aware of what our governments do for whatever clear or unclear reason, we should use correct arguments and examples. Regards, Leo Noordhuizen - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Another Happy Linux User" <a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><[EMAIL PROTECTED]></a> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><[EMAIL PROTECTED]></a> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:25 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Please go Here ( very O.T. rant) </pre><font face=3D"Courier New, Courier"></font><blockquote type=3Dcite= class=3Dcite cite><rant> One other "small" thing.... How many of you own a Digital Audio Recorder (DAT)? (most will say "not me") You know why? Because the "music industry" has convinced the courts, that we would all be criminals, if we owned one! No crime has been commited, - yet we are all being punished! *Why!* Because we "might" copy music????? The "music industry" has "legally?", blocked the manufacturers from making these devices available. DAT has been a distribution media standard in Europe, for some time now, - most people there have at least one (DAT recorder/player), in their home, - and we (in U.S. and Canada), can't even buy them. (except only, if one owns and/or operates a commercial recording studio). What's wrong with this picture? Oops..... I forgot, - we are criminals, - just looking for a crime to commit against the recordng industry...... </rant> Cheers, Jorgen <a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> </blockquote> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></body> </html> - --=====================_259213640==.ALT-- ------------------------------ From: "Don Flatgard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:14:52 -0500 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C37B69.D239ED20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's the general feeling about graphite versus steel shafts for irons? = I know some people want steel, others graphite but what do you guys = prefer?=20 I never thought much of graphite shaft for irons but I am getting older = and my thinking is starting to change. Plus graphite shafts for irons = are getting better. df ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Stephens=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:41 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec Don, I have TriTecs in my backup set of irons and have sold several sets. = SK Fiber are very consistent shafts quality wise. I found them to be a = bit on the soft side but customers seem to like that.=20 Jeff Whole-in-One Don Flatgard wrote: Anybody have any experience with SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts? Thinking about changing, I am using TT Dynalite A flex now. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C37B69.D239ED20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>What's the general feeling about=20 graphite versus steel shafts for irons? I know some people want = steel,=20 others graphite but what do you guys prefer? </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>I never thought much of graphite shaft = for irons=20 but I am getting older and my thinking is starting to change. Plus = graphite=20 shafts for irons are getting better. = df</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Jeff=20 Stephens</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = [EMAIL PROTECTED] href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 15, = 2003 4:41=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber = Tri-Tec</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Don,<BR><BR>I have TriTecs in my backup set of irons = and have=20 sold several sets. SK Fiber are very consistent shafts quality wise. I = found=20 them to be a bit on the soft side but customers seem to like that.=20 <BR><BR>Jeff<BR>Whole-in-One<BR><BR>Don Flatgard wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE [EMAIL PROTECTED] = type=3D"cite"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>Anybody have any experience with SK = Fiber=20 Tri-Tec iron shafts?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>Thinking about changing,=20 </FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>I am using TT Dynalite A = flex=20 now.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> = <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></= HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C37B69.D239ED20-- ------------------------------ From: "Don Flatgard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:57:13 -0500 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Again This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C37B6F.BCCACEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bernie, Can't find that Pro Perimeter head. Is that from Hireko? Not on = their web page. I loaned my catalog to a friend, can find him = either...df ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bernie Baymiller=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Again Don, SK Fiber makes very good shafts, though I haven't tried the Tri-Tec. I = use the Pure Energy A for most of my long drivers. Here's an iron shaft = option, if you want to experiment... I found an inexpensive graphite shaft which seems to play as well as = my old $15 Apache PM-30i A-2 shafts. It's a Hireko proprietary filament = wound Powerflex FW-501 combo R/S iron shaft (I'm using the R softstepped = one club with a 3/8" slope), spec'd at 88 grams, but is actually 81-82 = grams (same weight as my Apaches), torque 3.0...about where I like it. = Consistency shaft-to-shaft was quite good on my NF2, with a spread of = only .023" for ten shafts, all readings taken on the NBP...or a little = less than 5 cpm, I think. Seven of the shafts has spines less than 2 cpm = and the other three were .013", .015" and .016", or a little less than 3 = to a hair more than 3 cpm. Cost is $6.30 each/10 shaft quantity. Tip = sensitivity was .026"/inch, or about 5 cpm. These shafts have a profile = that feels a little heavier than many graphites the same weight...which = is a feature I like because it stabilizes my swing on the short irons. = Impact feels very solid and shaft action is smooth. Played three rounds = with them and had three straight 77s...if I could putt, they would have = been 74s or less. :-) Used Pro Perimeter heads ($6.95) with these shafts, very clean looking = cavity backs with low offset, and used Hireko's Soft Tread grips ($1, = like a Softee). Swingweight across the assembled 3-PW set was D2.9 to = D3.5, or .6 of a point spread (except for SW at D4.7, which I wanted = heavier). Also, tried the NBP-COG alignment, which seems to result in a = very straight ball flight (though most of these shafts really didn't = need any particular alignment). Club length is standard graphite = lengths. Component cost about $15 a club. Time will tell, but these = might be my "cheapo" iron success of the year.=20 Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Flatgard=20 To: shoptalk=20 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Again Can anybody recommend something better then SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron = shafts? - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C37B6F.BCCACEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Bernie,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial> Can't find that Pro = Perimeter=20 head. Is that from Hireko? Not on their web page. I loaned my = catalog to a=20 friend, can find him either...df</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Bernie=20 Baymiller</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = [EMAIL PROTECTED] href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, = 2003 8:23=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ShopTalk: = Again</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Don,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SK Fiber makes very good shafts, though I haven't tried the = Tri-Tec. I=20 use the Pure Energy A for most of my long drivers. Here's an iron = shaft=20 option, if you want to experiment...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I found an inexpensive graphite shaft which seems = to play=20 as well as my old $15 Apache PM-30i A-2 shafts. It's a Hireko = proprietary=20 filament wound Powerflex FW-501 combo R/S iron shaft (I'm using the R=20 softstepped one club with a 3/8" slope), spec'd at 88 grams, but is = actually=20 81-82 grams (same weight as my Apaches), torque 3.0...about where I = like=20 it. Consistency shaft-to-shaft was quite good on my NF2, with a = spread of=20 only .023" for ten shafts, all readings taken on the = NBP...or a=20 little less than 5 cpm, I think. Seven of the shafts has spines less = than 2=20 cpm and the other three were .013", .015" and .016", or a little = less=20 than 3 to a hair more than 3 cpm. Cost is $6.30 each/10 shaft = quantity. Tip=20 sensitivity was .026"/inch, or about 5 cpm. These shafts have a = profile that=20 feels a little heavier than many graphites the same weight...which is = a=20 feature I like because it stabilizes my swing on the short irons. = Impact feels=20 very solid and shaft action is smooth. Played three rounds with=20 them and had three straight 77s...if I could putt, they would = have been=20 74s or less. :-)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Used Pro Perimeter heads ($6.95) with these shafts, very clean = looking=20 cavity backs with low offset, and used Hireko's Soft Tread grips = ($1,=20 like a Softee). Swingweight across the assembled 3-PW set was D2.9 to = D3.5, or=20 .6 of a point spread (except for SW at D4.7, which I wanted heavier). = Also,=20 tried the NBP-COG alignment, which seems to result in a very straight = ball=20 flight (though most of these shafts really didn't need any particular=20 alignment). Club length is standard graphite lengths. Component cost = about $15=20 a club. Time will tell, but these might be my "cheapo" iron = success of=20 the year. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bernie<BR>Writeto: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Don = Flatgard</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = [EMAIL PROTECTED] href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">shoptalk</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, = 2003 6:58=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> ShopTalk: = Again</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>Can anybody recommend something = better then SK=20 Fiber Tri-Tec iron=20 shafts?</FONT></STRONG></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C37B6F.BCCACEE0-- ------------------------------ From: dbMiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:27:24 -0400 Subject: ShopTalk: Shafts weights? I seem to remember that someone was producing movable shaft weights for golf clubs ... Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks in advance miko ------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:30:57 EDT Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shafts weights? - --part1_129.317dbb51.2c975151_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/03 1:02:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I seem to remember that someone was producing > movable shaft weights for golf clubs ... > I think this is what you were thinking about. Check out Swingmastergolf.com - --part1_129.317dbb51.2c975151_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 9/15/03 1:02:55 PM Eastern Daylight= Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I seem to remember that someone= was producing <BR> movable shaft weights for golf clubs ...<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I think this is what you were thinking about. <BR> Check out Swingmastergolf.com</FONT></HTML> - --part1_129.317dbb51.2c975151_boundary-- ------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:35:02 EDT Subject: Re: ShopTalk: What size town for a clubmaker - --part1_18.352285b7.2c975246_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/03 1:23:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Golfers show up at golf courses to play golf, not buy clubs. They will > however, pick up an occasional club they may need if the price is right. I > found that the clubs that sell out of the pro shop are the utility clubs > and putters. And more putters. Yup! That has been the experience here. Every attempt by a clubmaker to locate a facility connected to a course, driving range, golf dome etc. has lasted less than 6 months. It might be O.K. if you don't have to pay rent and you don't need an income. Arnie - --part1_18.352285b7.2c975246_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 9/15/03 1:23:21 AM Eastern Daylight= Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B>Golfers show up at golf cour= ses to play golf, not buy clubs.</B> They will <BR> however, pick up an occasional club they may need if the price is right. I <= BR> found that the clubs that sell out of the pro shop are the utility clubs <BR= > and putters. And more putters.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Yup! That has been the experience here. Every attempt by a clubmaker to loca= te a facility connected to a course, driving range, golf dome etc. has laste= d less than 6 months. It might be O.K. if you don't have to pay rent and you= don't need an income. <BR> <BR> Arnie</FONT></HTML> - --part1_18.352285b7.2c975246_boundary-- ------------------------------ From: Al Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:26:59 -0400 Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec - --=====================_22398406==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I think graphite and steel are both excellent for irons and woods. I use both in both. Al At 10:14 AM 9/15/2003, you wrote: >What's the general feeling about graphite versus steel shafts for irons? I >know some people want steel, others graphite but what do you guys prefer? >I never thought much of graphite shaft for irons but I am getting older >and my thinking is starting to change. Plus graphite shafts for irons are >getting better. df >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jeff Stephens >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:41 AM >Subject: Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec > >Don, > >I have TriTecs in my backup set of irons and have sold several sets. SK >Fiber are very consistent shafts quality wise. I found them to be a bit on >the soft side but customers seem to like that. > >Jeff >Whole-in-One > >Don Flatgard wrote: >>Anybody have any experience with SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts? >>Thinking about changing, I am using TT Dynalite A flex now. >> - --=====================_22398406==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <body> I think graphite and steel are both excellent for irons and woods. I use both in both.<br><br> Al<br><br> At 10:14 AM 9/15/2003, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial"><b>What's the general feeling about graphite versus steel shafts for irons? I know some people want steel, others graphite but what do you guys prefer? </b></font><br> <font face="arial"><b>I never thought much of graphite shaft for irons but I am getting older and my thinking is starting to change. Plus graphite shafts for irons are getting better. df</b></font><br> <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <br> <dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Jeff Stephens</a> <br> <dd>To:</b> <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> <br> <dd>Sent:</b> Monday, September 15, 2003 4:41 AM<br> <dd>Subject:</b> Re: ShopTalk: SK Fiber Tri-Tec<br><br> <dd>Don,<br><br> <dd>I have TriTecs in my backup set of irons and have sold several sets. SK Fiber are very consistent shafts quality wise. I found them to be a bit on the soft side but customers seem to like that. <br><br> <dd>Jeff<br> <dd>Whole-in-One<br><br> <dd>Don Flatgard wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd><font face="arial">Anybody have any experience with SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts?</b></font><br> <dd><font face="arial">Thinking about changing, I am using TT Dynalite A flex now.</b></font><br> <dd> </blockquote> </dl></blockquote></body> </html> - --=====================_22398406==.ALT-- ------------------------------ End of shoptalk-digest V1 #5051 *******************************
