Jim,

Have you called Mars and asked if there are any in  their inventory?
1-800-585-8986 in Columbus, OH  If they don't have any left, maybe Tour Golf
has something similar. Tour Golf is their sister company in same building
now selling components. 1-800-258-0924

Bernie
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Letourneau, Henry J AM1(AW) (VAW120)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: ShopTalk: WHERE CAN I GET MARS HEADS?


> CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND A SET OF MARS V 1969 BLADE IRON HEADS?
THEY
> ARENT REALLY BLADES! THANKS - JIM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie Baymiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Again
>
>
> George,
>
> As I recall, the Apache PM-30i (now the MFS 30+) R1 was about 283 cpm raw.
I
> found that 275 cpm was what I needed...picked up 10-15 yards in that much
> softening, and it still feels stiff to me. I'd guess the Powerflex FW-501
> would play about 3 or 4 cpm softer than the R1 Apaches, but the profiles
are
> obviously different so it's strictly a guess. Suggest you get a couple of
> shafts and try them out...at $6.95 for singles, you can't lose much. Since
> it's an R/S combo shaft, you have plenty of room to stiffen it.
>
> That Pro Perimeter head is a good bargain for an inexpensive set, too. I
was
> hitting the set very well again today. Missed two greens with full iron
> shots today...one an easy 7-iron that I pulled 15 feet left of the pin
into
> a Bermuda grass bunker...had to chunk it out and DB'd the hole 3-putting
> from 12 feet. :-( The other was another 7-iron I hit dead at, but 20 feet
> short of a front-side pin and chipped up for a gimmee. Our greens have
just
> been aerated and I had trouble with the putter all day...3 three-putt
greens
> and a 78 that could easily have been a 73 if the swingee had been a little
> smarter...had maybe 6 birdie putts under 15 feet and only made one on the
> second hole. The manufactured quality of these heads is certainly not as
> good as Wishon's, but comparable to GW CER series and some of GS stuff.
The
> design is clean and the heads play as well as any. For an addicted
clubmaker
> like me who likes to try new stuff several times a year, heads and shafts
> like these make it possible and affordable.
>
> I'll send you my set record table and pic of the head privately. If you
have
> Microsoft Word, you can open it OK.
>
> Bernie
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: George  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Huson
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Again
>
> Bernie,
> I  need to build a low cost set of irons for travel. I was going to order
> the apache mfs 30+, this powerflex sounds too good to be true.  I normally
> play the R-1 in Apache's old spec's. how do you think this shaft will play
> without soft stepping it.
> George Huson
>
> Bernie Baymiller wrote:
>
>
> Don,
>
> SK Fiber makes very good shafts, though I haven't tried the Tri-Tec. I use
> the Pure Energy A for most of my long drivers. Here's an iron shaft
option,
> if you want to experiment...
>
> I found an inexpensive graphite shaft which seems to play as well as my
old
> $15 Apache PM-30i A-2 shafts. It's a Hireko proprietary filament wound
> Powerflex FW-501 combo R/S iron shaft (I'm using the R softstepped one
club
> with a 3/8" slope), spec'd at 88 grams, but is actually 81-82 grams (same
> weight as my Apaches), torque 3.0...about where I like it. Consistency
> shaft-to-shaft was quite good on my NF2, with a spread of only .023" for
ten
> shafts, all readings taken on the NBP...or a little less than 5 cpm, I
> think. Seven of the shafts has spines less than 2 cpm and the other three
> were .013", .015" and .016", or a little less than 3 to a hair more than 3
> cpm. Cost is $6.30 each/10 shaft quantity. Tip sensitivity was .026"/inch,
> or about 5 cpm. These shafts have a profile that feels a little heavier
than
> many graphites the same weight...which is a feature I like because it
> stabilizes my swing on the short irons. Impact feels very solid and shaft
> action is smooth. Played three rounds with them and had three straight
> 77s...if I could putt, they would have been 74s or less. :-)
>
> Used Pro Perimeter heads ($6.95) with these shafts, very clean looking
> cavity backs with low offset, and used Hireko's Soft Tread grips ($1, like
a
> Softee). Swingweight across the assembled 3-PW set was D2.9 to D3.5, or .6
> of a point spread (except for SW at D4.7, which I wanted heavier). Also,
> tried the NBP-COG alignment, which seems to result in a very straight ball
> flight (though most of these shafts really didn't need any particular
> alignment). Club length is standard graphite lengths. Component cost about
> $15 a club. Time will tell, but these might be my "cheapo" iron success of
> the year.
>
> Bernie
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>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Don  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Flatgard
> To: shoptalk <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:58 PM
> Subject: ShopTalk: Again
>
> Can anybody recommend something better then SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts?
>
>
>
>


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