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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wishon
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:54 AM
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Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Flat Faced Driver
TEDD:Because bulge and roll are both a radius, that means the smaller the number of the radius, the more curved it will be. Hence a 10" bulge will look more curved than will a 12" and so on.TOM-----Original Message-----
From: Childers, Tedd A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:58 AM
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Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Flat Faced DriverTom,With regard to bulge and roll, will a 10" or a 12" bulge/roll appear to have more curvature, assuming all other specs are the same? Put another way, is a larger bulge/roll indicative of more or less curvature?Tedd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tom Wishon
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Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Flat Faced DriverGraham:I can shed a little experience on this matter of no bulge woods that might help your customer think a little about this. Way back in the wood wood days I had a chance to be part of a little testing in which we made woods with a true flat face from heel to toe. I remember setting up a test group of golfers which consisted of players from low single digit up to high 20's handicappers. First guy up was the 2 hdcp player. He takes the 0 bulge driver, tees it up and hits it absolutely dead straight. My eyes almost come out of my head as I can't believe he pured this shot so straight. So I quickly get him to tee up another one and he hits this wild hook that goes no where but low left. I wipe the sweat from my brow and tell him, do you have ANY idea how perfectly you hit that first one? Reason being that the only place you can hit a dead straight shot from a no bulge driver is right dead center in line with the head's center of gravity. Using impact labels on the face to note point of impact we found that even shots hit 1/8" (3.2mm) off center caused some curving side spin on the shot. And as the off center hit went to �" (6.5mm) and more, it turned very ugly in terms of the curving nature of the shot - hooking when impact was on the toe side of the CG and fading when on the heel side.As driver heads have become larger, the width of the face is also much greater. When you put the same radius of say 10" or 12" across the face for the bulge, that longer face width makes the same radius look more rounded to the eyes. This is undoubtedly what your golfer is seeing that he dislikes. In terms of if there are any drivers out there with greatly reduced bulge I don't think so - at least I have not heard of anyone making substantially reduced bulge drivers today. You could ask to have a driver hand selected for a little less bulge based on the +/- tolerance that would come along with any driver in production, but generally that tolerance is not usually any more than +/- 1".TOM-----Original Message-----
From: Childers, Tedd A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:42 AM
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Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Flat Faced DriverGraham,Does the face actually need to be flat, or just appear to be flat? I recently assembled a Bang Golf Bang-o-matic 401cc head for myself, and the face on this club appears quite flat to my eye. Not sure of the actual bulge and roll specs on the head, but it has less obvious bulge and roll than some heads I have seen. Performance has been excellent from this head. It is quite forgiving on toe and heel shots, and the ball seems to go dead straight (I have pushed and pulled some shots, but they go straight right or left with no additional curvature). I have a 14* (13* Actual) head that I shafted with a R flex SK Fiber Tour Trac 90 at 44" total length. The BOM is a deep bore head, with ~2.5" insertion depth, so it gives you a lot of flexibility with weighting and/or tip depth insertion. It appears smaller than 401cc due to a fairly tall face, which reduces the heel/toe and front to back dimensions. The head is getting great reviews on the FGI forum. Good luck.Tedd
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John Muir
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John Muir
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