Lloyd, That is the maximum theoretical gain by going from 43.5" to 45". However, if you start looking at other factors, like % of shots on-center, the average distance may well be better at the shorter length.
Tedd -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lloyd Hackman Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:22 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article Tedd Yes, but you would give up that distance. The club head velocity is a function of Radius squared thus giving you a 4.6% increase in club head speed. At 100 mph that woud mean 11.5 yards. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Childers, Tedd A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > Date: 10/12/2005 4:34:08 PM > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > Lloyd, > > I think Tom's point is that even with perfectly matched shafts, the shorter > driver is easier to hit on-center than the longer driver. This is PURELY a > function of length. Longer = more difficult to hit on-center. Now, your > point may be valid that a well matched shaft will make it easier to hit a > longer club on-center, but it will be even easier to hit a shorter club with > a well matched shaft. The distance gain that a 45" driver offers over a > 43.5" driver is negligible (probably around 5-7 yards). Personally, I would > love to build a shorter driver, but ideally I could get a reasonable > swingweight (D2-D4) at 43.5-44" and with a very light shaft (60 grams). > This would require a heavier than normal driver head (210+ grams), and that > is what I have a problem finding, at least in a model that has the specs I > want (450+ cc, ~12* loft). > > Tedd > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lloyd Hackman > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:44 PM > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > > Tom > > Why should I do it with length when selecting the proper frequency shaft > provides the best accuracy and distance and the player has already decided > to play with the longer club. The primary reason people have had trouble > with longer shafts in the past is because no one provided a way of matching > the shaft timing except by trial and error, which is not easy and lacks in > sufficient choices when using the standard A,L,R,S and X shafts. We have > been changing a lot of shafts in the R7's and callaway's and putting the > same length shaft back in but at a fitted frequency with great success. I > had one player a 5 handicap bring me a new Callaway driver and want me to > put a stiff shaft in it. He claimed he could not keep it in the fairway and > because the industry would tell him to go to a stiffer shaft or like you > would tell him to go to a shorter shaft, he brought me a stiffer shaft to > put in the club for him. I told him I don't do it that way because I was > not sure that the stiffer shaft was what he needed. I told him I preferred > to do a fitting and make a recommendation because when some one is changing > a shaft it should be to get the best they can get. I ended up recommending > a frequency 7 CPM lower and could only find a shaft at the time to put in > the club that made it 5 CPM lower then what he had, he decided to give it a > try. He called back two days later and said that he had played 18 holes > that day and never missed a fairway!!! > > llhack > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tom Wishon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > > Date: 10/12/2005 2:55:47 PM > > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > > > LLHack: > > > > Fine Lloyd - you just keep on ignoring the simple fact that longer > > length does not match well with golfer athletic ability and does result > > in one heckuva lot of avg golfers having one heckuva lot of trouble > > keeping the club under control and on a reasonably proper swing path and > > plane. Better yet, why don't you do both? Do your chip thing to > > satisfy your own beliefs but do it with a length definitely shorter than > > 45" for your golfers. > > > > TOM > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Lloyd Hackman > > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:44 AM > > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com > > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > > > I am sorry but the Wishon article starts right off with the wrong > > premise. > > He throws in the premise that the shorter the club the better the > > accuracy. > > He ignores the fact that the real parameter for accuracy is shaft > > frequency. If you can match the proper shaft frequency to the players > > swing > > and get the shaft back to straight and square for him he will then have > > the > > best combo of distance and accuracy. Of course stiffening or shortening > > the > > shaft will improve accuracy just because you have restrained the shaft > > from > > flexing as much and the head moving with respect to the shaft as much. > > Timing the shaft with the swing to get it back to straight and square is > > the answer. Accuracy is the primary benefit that the player recognizes > > when > > I fit them. I do not have to change the driver length from what the > > player > > has ben playing but just select the proper shaft frequency to get the > > shaft > > back to straight and square. I personally play a 48" driver at my height > > of > > 5' 10" and confound all of those I play with at how accurate I am. I am > > hitting better then 85% of the fairways. > > > > llhack > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <shoptalk@mail.msen.com> > > > Date: 10/12/2005 10:01:47 AM > > > Subject: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > > > > > Found this great article from pga.com that Tom wrote on playing > > > shorter drivers. > > > http://www.pga.com/improve/tips/equipment/improve_wishon080304.cfm > > > > > > What kind of experience have you guys have building 43-44" drivers? > > > -- > > > > > > John Muir > > > shoptalk > > > http://clubmaker-online.com > > > http://gripscience.com > > > http://elevongolf.com > > > 810.923.7396 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
