On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:54:02PM +0100, Mr Dash Four wrote: > > >> Is this equally bad on all other Linux > >> distributions? > >> > > > > No it isn't. I have never had suspend crash on my Debian systems, > > even the ones running Debian unstable. > > > Me neither! Hibernate on the other hand...
Well I don't hibernate very often, but I don't recall it ever failing either. > Really? And how did you figure out that I am "end user"? For the > uninitiated (like your good self) - I am a developer, and as such I > expect when something gets released to have, at least, its basic > functionality level sorted out - "for developers" is not a synonym for > "barely-working" or "plain crap", not in my domain anyway - you, on the > other hand, have a different view, it seems! I make no assumption about what you do. However your expectations of what fedora should provide you with clearly does not match with what the makers of fedora expect to have to provide. Personally I have used Debian for many years because I don't tolerate the quality level (or lack thereof) that redhat thinks is justified to release. I used to be a long time redhat user however. > > End users should be running RHEL instead. Fedora throws in > > lots of untested new stuff to get it tested. > I thought that's what Fedora Rawhide is for? It is what all of fedora is for. rawhide is just especially raw. Fedora is a testbed for RHEL. If things break, they work on fixing them so that when they make a new RHEL, it really does work. They don't usually go and break things on purpose, although sometimes they seem to (kernel mode switching for example was obviuosly still not ready when they decided feora would be a good place to test it). > > If you don't like stuff > > not working or breaking, then Fedora is by design not what you should > > be running. > > > Where did I state that? And since when have I asked you for advice on > what I *should* be running? I am not telling you what to run. I am just pointing out what the vast majority of fedora users have failed to realize. You can do what you want (I certainly hope you do). Way too many users mistakenly think Fedora is the replacement for the redhat distribution unfortunately. -- Len Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Shorewall-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-devel
