I'd like to second James' words. Mr Dash Four's behaviour on this towards
Tom is simply inexcusable.
On Sep 24, 2012 4:15 AM, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi "Mr Dash Four" and Shorewall,
>
> I've been following this thread and I follow parts of shorewall-users
> and shorewall-devel and as long as it's okay with everyone, I'd like to
> voice some thoughts... I'm top posting this, because it doesn't really
> belong in line anywhere...
>
> Personally, I think shorewall is a brilliant product which I have been
> using for well over 10 years I think, and my job as a sysadmin would be
> infinitely harder without it. I know that Tom works on this as a
> volunteer project in his spare time, so he deserves a lot of respect for
> this, and all he asks is that you donate to the Alzheimer association.
>
> So: "Mr Dash Four", I think you're out of line here, and you should
> definitely show a lot more respect. Also, if you're going to call out
> Tom like this, then man up and do so using your real name. Personally,
> I'd like to continue seeing you post on the mailing lists because I
> assume that it is helping the progression of shorewall and hopefully it
> will help it become an even better product, but not if you're going to
> be taking shots at our benevolent leader.
>
> In life, I'm not always as diplomatic as I should be, but my rule of
> thumb when talking on the internets is that I'm on someone elses turf
> then I should try to be as nice as possible even when (if) the other guy
> is at fault, and I don't think in this scenario that this is on Tom,
> I've seen you be a bit more rude than I would expect, especially when
> you get a lot of of free support from Tom. If Tom tells you to take your
> business elsewhere, you better either do it, or find a way to make
> amends to him.
>
> So, in other words to Mr Dash Four:
> * thanks for reading
> * chill the f*** out
> * start posting with your real full name
> * apologize to Tom
> * and maybe donate some cash in his name to support Alzheimers:
> http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_index.htm#Donations
>
> Sincerely,
> James Shubin
>
> On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 00:23 +0100, Mr Dash Four wrote:
> > >> I may be older than you, but I am not as stupid.
> > >
> > > My God, you are an arrogant jackass! You totally overlooked this bit
> and
> > > then you call me stupid!
> > Fair enough - I must have missed it and I am a man enough to admit it
> and apologise. That doesn't excuse the above comment, though I am not the
> one with anger management issues.
>
> >
> > > Take your business somewhere else. I'm finished listening to you.
> > You are in no position to dictate where I should "take my business". In
> case you haven't noticed, shorewall isn't my "business". Fixing bugs,
> testing or otherwise making contribution to your shorewall "products" isn't
> what I do for living either, not least because this activity is voluntary
> and I dedicate my free time to do it, while I am not charging you, or
> anyone else, for these efforts.
> >
> >
> >
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