Tom Eastep wrote:
>> If I remove these lines (I commented them out), then everything is 
>> clear. So, is there any way to "synchronise" both things as the way I 
>> see it, one doesn't make sense without the other? In other words, if I 
>> have chosen not to have the tftp helper, what is the sense in loading 
>> nf_conntrack_tftp for example?
>>     
>
> The modules files are also read by the CLI and by the shorecap programs;
> so that can't have ?if .... ?endif like other Shorewall configuration files.
>   
Erm, you've lost me. What does that mean?

> But you can certainly copy helpers to /etc/shorewall/ and modify it in
> any way that you see fit.
>   
Am I right in assuming that if I don't need any of the helpers, I could 
also delete these lines too? I also take it there isn't a way to sync 
the "HELPERS" config option with this then?

>> Also, in that "helpers" file I see quite a few ipset modules 
>> (ip_set_iphash, ip_set_ipmap etc) - these are not helpers and, anyway, 
>> they appear to be in "modules.ipset" so I think it is safe to delete 
>> them from there.
>>     
>
> Yes -- that's certainly a bug. I've removed them for the next Beta.
>   
Thanks.

>> While I am at it, one further question: am I right in 
>> assuming that if iptables match/target kernel module is needed in a 
>> specific rule, then that kernel module is loaded automatically by 
>> iptables anyway, so do we need any of the "modules.xtables" or 
>> "modules.extensions"?
>>     
>
> They are loaded by Shorewall only if LOAD_HELPERS_ONLY=No. If
> LOAD_HELPERS_ONLY=Yes, only the helpers file is loaded.
>
> They will be loaded if the kernel is configured for module autoloading.
> That is rare in embedded systems but is the norm for desktop and server
> distributions.
>   
OK, so if I use iptables targets (which appear as kernel modules) and 
don't need any "helpers" loaded, in order to prevent shorewall from 
loading anything else (well, anything apart from the "essential" modules 
- not sure if iptables would load these automatically!) while starting 
my firewall successfully, all I have to do is:

HELPERS=none
LOAD_HELPERS_ONLY=Yes

Correct, or am I going to have my fingers burned?

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