> > No, not yet.  I don't consider myself proficient at tcpdump to make 
> > that part of my normal troubleshooting process.  I guess I better 
> > learn.  :^)
> 
> I agree :-) Running a complex multi-router setup without 
> being able to use the routers' basic troubleshooting tools is 
> a real handicap. Be sure to use the -e option to tcpdump so 
> that you can see the link-layer addresses.
> 
> Ethereal is also nice as it gives a graphical display. It's 
> display is similar to Shomiti Surveyor Lite, the sniffer 
> featured in "Internet Core Protocols: The Definitive Guide" 
> by Eric A. Hall. I think that book is a "must have" for 
> network administrators.
> 
> -Tom

Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll definitely check the book out.  I'm
not running X on either router, so Ethereal is probably out of the
question unless you can run one in probe mode and another in display
mode.  I have used it in the past, however.  They even have a Windows
version now...

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