Finally have a shorewall 4.0.5 system running with multiple isps and 
ipsec vpns.

Looking good so far :-)

Have a few questions.

I have the following in start:
ip rule delete  prio 200 table 200
ip route del table 200
ip route add 192.168.0.0/16 via 192.168.2.254  dev eth0 table 200
ip rule add prio 200 table 200
.....................................
192.168.0.0/16 is the net of all the vpns
192.168.2.254 is the ip of the local network interface.

This allows outgoing traffic  to  the vpn from the firewall.

Is there a shorewall way to do this?

Next are not really really shorewall issues but related.

In debian etch they start openswan ipsec in rcS.d.
This starts ipsec before bind. Rather annoying in this case as the box 
is the master dns for the domain and it seems silly to use ips.

I have been concerned about maintaining qos through the vpns.
 From what I'm seeing the eps packets get the tos of the original 
packets. That saves a lot of problems.
I'm thinking of doing vpn as  gre  through ipsec.
Will this  still happen?

Thanks

John

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