Thank you very much Tom, I did not think that the connection was even 
getting forwarded to the alpha.  problem is solved. thank you very much

Tom Eastep wrote:
> Tom Eastep wrote:
>> Tom Eastep wrote:
>>> dan wrote:
>>>> ok, my setup is slightly different. per this statement here:
>>>> "The above assumes that the IP address of the ALPHA is 10.223.8.10
>>>> <http://10.223.8.10/> and
>>>> that it is connected through eth0. It also assumes that the ALPHA's
>>>> default gateway is configured with the IP address of eth0."
>>>>
>>>> the alpha is definitely on the loc interface with the ip 10.223.8.10
>>>> <http://10.223.8.10> BUT it does *not* have a default gateway of this
>>>> machine. it has a default gateway to another router connected to a
>>>> private wan.
>>>
>>> So you have just been ignoring this part of the response to 
>>> Shorewall FAQ:
>>>
>>
>> That's FAQ 1a.
>>
>
> Dan,
>
> Please see http://www1.shorewall.net/FAQ.htm#faq1f
>
> It explains why the default gateway on the server matters and how you 
> can work around the problem.
>
> -Tom
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