Thank you, Roberto and Tom.  

That helps me understand shorewall better.  In any event, having now tried 
those iptables commands--they didn't help in my case.  When I do a "shorewall 
clear", does that actually leave the iptables/firewall wide open?  Perhaps I 
have misunderstood, but I had thought that whenever shorewall "clears", that it 
replaces the previous iptables configuration that had existed before shorewall 
started.  Is this not the case?

To answer your question, Paul, the link I referenced regarding this Ubuntu 
problem is not presenting my case.  Those are his iptables output.  Yes, I am 
still dealing with the same server; however, I have been forced to practice on 
an "offline" server, which, when upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04, exhibits the exact 
same behavior.  The problem is that the PPPoE lines will not pass internet 
through to the LAN when they are in the route with 8.04, and a network restart 
will always show these errors:

ppp0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
ppp1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.

I've posted to the Ubuntu forums, but received no response.  As it turns out, 
I've experienced these same problems now on two different machines, and with 
both 7.10 and 8.04 of Ubuntu.  I have also gone through the current list of 
Ubuntu distributions, by trial and error, to find the ones that will support 
the load balancing, and only these last two actually do it properly.  So, it 
seems to be a case of breaking one thing to fix another.  I may have to go back 
to using hardware routers to interface the pppoe lines for the server.  The 
problem with doing it that way is that the routers seem to have a hardware 
limit for the number of connections going through, and when I have tried this 
previously, there were times when the internet was clogged up.  Additionally, I 
have had some issues with the double NAT.

Of course, almost none of my problems are directly related to shorewall.  I had 
thought the load balancing might be, but I'm learning that is a kernel issue.  
I have really appreciated having shorewall, and want to thank Tom and any 
others who have provided this tool.

Thank you all.

Erik.


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