On mardi, 20 juin 2017 18.04:52 h CEST Tom Eastep wrote:
> On 06/20/2017 07:26 AM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
> > Hi Tom, as package maintainer for openSUSE, I've one question.
> > We have a product line called Leap on which we try to minimize the changes
> > an end users can have to deal with.
> > So the last two version 42.1 and 42.2 I've stick to 4.6.13 series.
> > 
> > Now in one month we will have 42.3 released, and I wonder if I should
> > continue to be hard conservative and keep 4.6.13 or move the package to
> > something never ?
> > 
> > As there's configuration migration to be done, I'm a bit reluctant as I
> > don't know how complex configuration end-users (normally admins) have
> > setup.
> > 
> > On my side, I've successfully updated simple setup just with shorewall
> > update -a so I would say that nothing is really hard complicated right ?
> > 
> > Actually I've 5.1.4.3 packaged and ready for submission, if you tell me
> > that better for users to go for this version, then I will follow your
> > advise.
> Hi Bruno,
> 
> Migrating from 4.6.13 to 5.1.x is straightforward using 'shorewall
> update -a'. I think that it important, however, to alert users that this
> step is required, so that there isn't a lot of surprise and confusion
> during the distribution upgrade. I am aware of one distribution that
> actually runs 'update -a' as part of the RPM update process so that
> users need not be aware of this requirement.
> 
> Does Leap have a mechanism to alert users when a release includes a
> change that requires an additional conversion step?
> 
> -Tom
Thanks for that quick feedback, let open the way for an upgrade.

I can also put those kind of auto update in rpm, but I'm not really fan of 
that kind of things. As packager I can handle and take responsabilites about 
the software, now from my pov configuration is a things that users handle and 
know. I can't know where and how people use shorewall (perhaps to generate 
cofiguration pushed on other machine etc ...).
At least its the "way of thinking of rpm based distribution" which is 
different of what debian derivative do.

But yes there's a release notes I will make addentum and perhaps also an echo 
warning at installation time., also the changelog of the package mention that 
each time it is recommended to do a update -a

best regards.

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Bruno Friedmann 
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