On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 11:31 -0700, Jim Nelson wrote:
> I feel like a few things are being batted around here in this thread, but
> I'm still not sure what's being asked for.  When you say you want Shotwell
> to export so files can be edited separately from their originals, do you
> mean by Shotwell or a different editor?

I expected Export to allow me to select a group of image files - perhaps
all the files with a particular tag in common - and make unchanged
copies of them somewhere else. It seems odd to me that a file conversion
(to jpg or png) would be forced on me, albeit with an option on
filesize.

Obviously, I could use the File Manager to make copies of these files
one by one, but I'd have to identify each one of the tabbed files
separately, open the relevant directory, and copy the file to the
destination directory.

> 
> First, Shotwell is a non-destructive editor; we don't write our changes to
> the master file, so it's easy to try edits without losing data.

But I might want to export a group of files which share the same tag to
a USB stick, e.g. for a colleague to work on. I would want him to have
the original NEF files to work on (e.g. to adjust exposure settings)
rather than a JPG.

> 
> Second, as mentioned, Shotwell does have an "Edit with External Editor" (and
> "Edit with External RAW Editor") which allows the files to be monitored and
> managed by Shotwell, but edited (destructively) elsewhere.  Shotwell makes a
> full-sized copy (and converts RAW files to JPEG, if using the first option)
> so your master is safe.

Forgive me for having some anxieties about this process, and my ability
to manage it correctly.

> 
> Third, no one has mentioned the Edit -> Duplicate option.  This creates a
> duplicate of the photo (including a new copy of the file) in your library.
> This might be what some people are asking for.

Presumably the copy is in the same folder as the original file, so I'd
have to chase through various directories to find the files I wanted to
edit, and which had been duplicated to protect the originals?

Michael

> 
> -- Jim
> 
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Jonathan Charnas <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Aha. Well that's great, but the output jpeg has an added extension.
> > Say if I edit P10001.RW2, the jpeg will be saved as P10001_lzn.jpg
> > If I'm reading Adam's post properly, I'd be better off saving it as
> > P10001.jpg and just re-import the directory?
> >
> > Personally I'd much prefer just importing the final result - LightZone
> > stores the action history and links between RW2 and jpg in a db similar
> > to shotwell's, but it pertains only to the editing done. Thus having an
> > option to force shotwell to just ignore the RAW files entirely.
> >
> > Alternatively you could also show images imported and filter by filetype
> > also - that would make me just as happy.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > On 09/29/2010 11:55 AM, Mattias Põldaru wrote:
> > > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 2010-09-29 kell 11:24, kirjutas Jonathan Charnas:
> > >> My workflow uses an external program to edit my .RW2 files into jpeg.
> > >> The output jpeg is in the same directory as the original raw file, but I
> > >> only want the jpegs imported in shotwell.
> > >>
> > >> It's great to be able to use Shotwell for basic editing of RAW, but I'd
> > >> much prefer if I could keep my workflow and use Shotwell at the end of
> > >> it without having to manually remove the links to the original raw files
> > >> that I want to conserve but not display.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Jon
> > > Not exactly an answer to your question, but see Adam's post from April:
> > > http://lists.yorba.org/pipermail/shotwell/2010-April/000282.html
> > >
> > > Mattias
> > >
> > >
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