On 09/27/2011 04:49 PM, Jim Nelson wrote:
I took a photo, modified it in direct-edit mode, and saved it. I then ran this command for each:

$ exiv2 -pa IMG_0001.JPG > orig.txt
$ exiv2 -pa IMG_0002_saved.JPG > saved.txt

Then I did a diff (using meld) of the files. I see no changes other than a couple expected modifications.

What do you see when you do this experiment?

Jim,
I spoke too soon. I installed Shotwell 0.11.2, loaded an image, cropped and adjusted saturation and saved it. It deleted all of the camera information. Actually, all it retained was the original imaging date and time. Maybe this is appropriate action as the image is not the original any more, but why would "Save as" retain it?

Just to be clear, using "Save As" retains all camera information, "Save" deletes it.

Maybe someone else could verify this.

diff output is as follows for "Save":
1,2d0
< Exif.Image.Make                              Ascii      10  Panasonic
< Exif.Image.Model                             Ascii       8  DMC-LZ7
4,7c2
< Exif.Image.XResolution                       Rational    1  72
< Exif.Image.YResolution                       Rational    1  72
< Exif.Image.ResolutionUnit                    Short       1  inch
< Exif.Image.Software                          Ascii      10  Ver.1.0
---
> Exif.Image.Software Ascii 16 Shotwell 0.11.2
9,15c4
< Exif.Image.YCbCrPositioning                  Short       1  Co-sited
< Exif.Image.ExifTag                           Long        1  418
< Exif.Photo.ExposureTime                      Rational    1  1/1000 s
< Exif.Photo.FNumber                           Rational    1  F2.8
< Exif.Photo.ExposureProgram                   Short       1  Auto
< Exif.Photo.ISOSpeedRatings                   Short       1  100
< Exif.Photo.ExifVersion                       Undefined   4  2.21
---
> Exif.Image.ExifTag                           Long        1  98
18,92c7,15
< Exif.Photo.ComponentsConfiguration           Undefined   4  YCbCr
< Exif.Photo.CompressedBitsPerPixel            Rational    1  2
< Exif.Photo.ExposureBiasValue                 SRational   1  0 EV
< Exif.Photo.MaxApertureValue                  Rational    1  F2.8
< Exif.Photo.MeteringMode                      Short       1  Multi-segment
< Exif.Photo.LightSource                       Short       1  Unknown
< Exif.Photo.Flash                             Short       1  No, compulsory
< Exif.Photo.FocalLength                       Rational    1  6.1 mm
< Exif.Photo.MakerNote Undefined 6774 (Binary value suppressed)
< Exif.MakerNote.Offset                        Long        1  920
< Exif.MakerNote.ByteOrder                     Ascii       3  II
< Exif.Panasonic.Quality                       Short       1  Normal
< Exif.Panasonic.FirmwareVersion               Undefined   4  0 1 0 6
< Exif.Panasonic.WhiteBalance                  Short       1  Auto
< Exif.Panasonic.FocusMode                     Short       1  Auto
< Exif.Panasonic.AFMode                        Byte        2  5-area
< Exif.Panasonic.ImageStabilization            Short       1  On, Mode 2
< Exif.Panasonic.Macro                         Short       1  Off
< Exif.Panasonic.ShootingMode Short 1 Intelligent ISO
< Exif.Panasonic.Audio                         Short       1  No
< Exif.Panasonic.DataDump Undefined 6152 (Binary value suppressed)
< Exif.Panasonic.WhiteBalanceBias              Short       1  0 EV
< Exif.Panasonic.FlashBias                     Short       1  0
< Exif.Panasonic.InternalSerialNumber Undefined 16 70 51 53 48 55 48 50 49 51 48 53 54 48 0 0 0
< Exif.Panasonic.ExifVersion                   Undefined   4  2.20
< Exif.Panasonic.ColorEffect                   Short       1  Off
< Exif.Panasonic.TimeSincePowerOn              Long        1  578
< Exif.Panasonic.BurstMode                     Short       1  Off
< Exif.Panasonic.SequenceNumber                Long        1  0
< Exif.Panasonic.Contrast                      Short       1  Normal
< Exif.Panasonic.NoiseReduction                Short       1  Standard
< Exif.Panasonic.SelfTimer                     Short       1  Off
< Exif.Panasonic.Rotation Short 1 Horizontal (normal)
< Exif.Panasonic.ColorMode                     Short       1  Natural
< Exif.Panasonic.BabyAge Ascii 20 9999:99:99 00:00:00
< Exif.Panasonic.OpticalZoomMode               Short       1  Standard
< Exif.Panasonic.ConversionLens                Short       1  Off
< Exif.Panasonic.TravelDay                     Short       1  65535
< Exif.Panasonic.WorldTimeLocation             Short       1  Home
< Exif.Panasonic.ProgramISO                    Short       1  65535
< Exif.Panasonic.MakerNoteVersion              Undefined   4  1.01
< Exif.Panasonic.SceneMode Short 1 Intelligent ISO
< Exif.Panasonic.WBRedLevel                    Short       1  1954
< Exif.Panasonic.WBGreenLevel                  Short       1  1054
< Exif.Panasonic.WBBlueLevel                   Short       1  1734
< Exif.Panasonic.BabyAge Ascii 20 9999:99:99 00:00:00
< Exif.Photo.FlashpixVersion                   Undefined   4  1.00
< Exif.Photo.ColorSpace                        Short       1  sRGB
< Exif.Photo.PixelXDimension                   Long        1  3072
< Exif.Photo.PixelYDimension                   Long        1  2304
< Exif.Photo.InteroperabilityTag               Long        1  7702
< Exif.Iop.InteroperabilityIndex               Ascii       4  R98
< Exif.Iop.InteroperabilityVersion             Undefined   4  1.00
< Exif.Photo.SensingMethod Short 1 One-chip color area < Exif.Photo.FileSource Undefined 1 Digital still camera < Exif.Photo.SceneType Undefined 1 Directly photographed
< Exif.Photo.CustomRendered                    Short       1  Normal process
< Exif.Photo.ExposureMode                      Short       1  Auto
< Exif.Photo.WhiteBalance                      Short       1  Auto
< Exif.Photo.DigitalZoomRatio                  Rational    1  0.0
< Exif.Photo.FocalLengthIn35mmFilm             Short       1  37.0 mm
< Exif.Photo.SceneCaptureType                  Short       1  Standard
< Exif.Photo.GainControl                       Short       1  None
< Exif.Photo.Contrast                          Short       1  Normal
< Exif.Photo.Saturation                        Short       1  Low
< Exif.Photo.Sharpness                         Short       1  Soft
< Exif.Image.PrintImageMatching Undefined 208 (Binary value suppressed) < Exif.Thumbnail.Compression Short 1 JPEG (old-style)
< Exif.Thumbnail.Orientation                   Short       1  top, left
< Exif.Thumbnail.XResolution                   Rational    1  72
< Exif.Thumbnail.YResolution                   Rational    1  72
< Exif.Thumbnail.ResolutionUnit                Short       1  inch
< Exif.Thumbnail.JPEGInterchangeFormat         Long        1  8084
< Exif.Thumbnail.JPEGInterchangeFormatLength   Long        1  3996
< Exif.Thumbnail.YCbCrPositioning              Short       1  Co-sited
---
> Exif.Photo.PixelXDimension                   SLong       1  2916
> Exif.Photo.PixelYDimension                   SLong       1  2211
> Xmp.exif.PixelXDimension                     XmpText     4  2916
> Xmp.exif.PixelYDimension                     XmpText     4  2211
> Xmp.exif.DateTimeOriginal XmpText 20 2011:09:12 22:03:04 > Xmp.exif.DateTimeDigitized XmpText 20 2011-09-12T22:03:04Z
> Xmp.tiff.ImageWidth                          XmpText     1  1
> Xmp.tiff.ImageHeight                         XmpText     4  2211
> Xmp.xmp.CreateDate XmpText 20 2011-09-12T22:03:04Z

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