Hi Chris,

> On 29 Nov 2015, at 17:12, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I oppose the current shutup charter text and 
> draft-josefsson-email-received-privacy as both promote the elimination of 
> mechanisms that protect users from fraud and abuse.
> 
> As I do care about user privacy, here's a strawman charter that I would 
> support:
> 
> ====
> This WG will investigate mechanisms to conceal the information exposed by the 
> submission client's IP address in the mandatory received header generated by 
> the submission server. The output of this WG will provide a mechanism as 
> effective at tracing abuse and fraud as current use of the submission 
> client's IP address. Changing other rules related to received headers in SMTP 
> is out of scope for this WG.
> ====

I think this is a very reasonable counter proposal.

To address concerns from other people it might be worth tweaking it, so that if 
after investigation no reasonable proposal can be produced, the group should 
produce a document describing why the problem is not tractable or not worth 
solving considering tradeoffs.

> 
> I believe RFC 2442 combined with PGP or S/MIME adequately protects email 
> headers. I worked on an implementation of that in the 1990s. I'm doubtful the 
> memory-hole proposal is sufficiently better or sufficiently likely to deploy 
> to be worth IETF effort.

There might be more will to implement something this time around. Whether the 
memory-hole proposal is it, I don't know.

Best Regards,
Alexey
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